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cfm251 03-21-2009 02:44 AM

DAMMIT! chopped a fuel pump wire!!!
 
Well I am sad to say I am facing issues once again, I was in the process of replacing my fuel pump when i snapped an electrical wire that connects into the fuel pump the one that goes deep into the fuel tank, the red and black wire pair with the connector that connects to the bottom of upper part of the fuel pump assembly . The issue here is I tough simple crimping the wires into a connector would do, but i realized this wire would be somewhat exposed nonetheless and i believe at some point partially submerged in gas. Hope I am being clear enough How can I fix this, i was thinking of using liquid rubber, but i don't know how effective or lasting that will be when in contact with gasoline. If anyone knows how to fix it no problem, but if a part is necessary I would like to know which part is it, how do i go about replacing it, and where to buy it from

Thanks

ZumnRx8 03-21-2009 02:51 AM

Search for this guy Teknics hes a Mazda Certified Tech, im sure he can help you, and pictures would help also

cfm251 03-21-2009 03:01 AM

yeah ill snap some pics 2morow, i just hope I dont spontaneously combust lol I shall sleep now.

dannobre 03-21-2009 05:50 AM

Sounds like the plug/wire for your fuel level sensor...does your gas gauge work?

If so you should be able to use a crimp splice and not worry about it

Jon316G 03-21-2009 06:51 AM

I can understand your concern... having the possibility of exposed wire in a gas tank seems like a bad idea.
But there isn't enough air in the gas tank to sustain combustion (think of the Fire Tetrahedron).
BUT.. I too would still be nervous if I were in the same situation.

That being said, you can always play it super safe and do this:
Buy butt-splice connectors that shrink wrap at the ends, wrap with electrical tape, then wrap twice with regular shrink wrap.
This should definitely prevent anything from getting through.

cfm251 03-23-2009 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by Jon316G (Post 2926054)
I can understand your concern... having the possibility of exposed wire in a gas tank seems like a bad idea.
But there isn't enough air in the gas tank to sustain combustion (think of the Fire Tetrahedron).
BUT.. I too would still be nervous if I were in the same situation.

That being said, you can always play it super safe and do this:
Buy butt-splice connectors that shrink wrap at the ends, wrap with electrical tape, then wrap twice with regular shrink wrap.
This should definitely prevent anything from getting through.

this sounds like a good idea, also makes sense when eerythink is put bac together its pretty much sealed from outside air. Thanks for the imput only worry here is shrink swap involves heat right?

cfm251 03-23-2009 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 2926037)
Sounds like the plug/wire for your fuel level sensor...does your gas gauge work?

If so you should be able to use a crimp splice and not worry about it

I dont know, battery is currently in storage being kept charged...

Jon316G 03-23-2009 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by cfm251 (Post 2928486)
Thanks for the imput only worry here is shrink swap involves heat right?

Yeah... is it long enough to get the whole thing out of the tank so you can put a plate over the opening?
it doesn't require a lot of heat so it'll be quick.

teknics 03-23-2009 12:45 PM

So it's the wire actually in the tank? You'd probably be fine with a butt connector crimped on but i would definitely rec. trying to get shrinkwrap tube around it for safety's sake.

I cant picture the harness in the fuel tank but i think it's like a short harness with plugs on both sides, you should be able to get it cheaply and replace the whole harness if you want to do it correctly. I could be wrong about it being a short jumper kind of harness but most cars have that type of fuel pump harness.

kevin.

cfm251 03-23-2009 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by teknics (Post 2929004)
So it's the wire actually in the tank? You'd probably be fine with a butt connector crimped on but i would definitely rec. trying to get shrinkwrap tube around it for safety's sake.

I cant picture the harness in the fuel tank but i think it's like a short harness with plugs on both sides, you should be able to get it cheaply and replace the whole harness if you want to do it correctly. I could be wrong about it being a short jumper kind of harness but most cars have that type of fuel pump harness.

kevin.

I dont know exactly but when I took out the old pump had to let it drain from the good amount of gas. Harness perhaps is not deep being in the middle of the fuel pump assembly, but at least a certain portion of the wire is in fuel, this is with less than 1/4 of a tank of fuel.


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