traction control
 

hey guys, i ran a quick search about traction control problems and i could only find people talking about the tc light staying on... Im having problems but its not with it staying on, its with me not being able to turn the tc off. The only way i am able to is if i disconnect the battery. I have heard people talking about hold the button down for 10,20 sec but that never works.. :/ Dont wanna go back to the dealership. so i am hoping to find out something here.

Are you saying that the only way your TCS is getting disabled is if you take advantage of the post-battery-disconnect fault that keeps the TCS from engaging?


For the sake of argument, what DOES happen when you tap the button?, and what DOES happen when you hold the button down?

/\ even better question .... Does the 'DSC OFF' light illuminate when you press the the button ?

nothing happens when i push the button, NOTHING. not when i hold it not when i push it not when i beat it with a hammer. Im pretty sure the button it self is broke :/ I guess a test light should be able to tell me that.

Ok, so no light turns on in the gauge cluster. However, I assume that you DO get a light after a battery disconnect?

About have tapping the light and then seeing if the tires spin (in a safe area with low traction of course).

It very well might be that your button wiring is damaged/broken/etc... and the ECU simply doesn't know that you are trying to disable it.

yeah, when i disconnect the battery the light is on till I switch it off and crank it back up.. then i cant get it back off. Thats the ONLY way i can get it off. I will play with the button and see if theres anything i can do with it. thx for the help tho. :D

When you disconnect and reconnect the battery, The light is on. That should be the tcs disabled.

What exactly to you mean here? You can push the button and then the light turns off? If so, The button is working. At least half way.

Button doesn't work for that even if everything is normal, not after a battery-disconnect fault. I assume he means "switch off the car", which, if done after a few wheel rotations will indeed re-enable the TCS.

Ah yes, The wheel turning reset thing. Forgot about that.

So if I understand correctly, teamflash2008 wants to have his traction control off all the time. Pushing the button to temporarily disable it isn't good enough.

So what he does is disconnect the battery, and when he reconnects it, its fully off, and it wants to have the reset procedure done.

But what he's running into is that when he drives his car normally, after he shuts off the car, and comes back later to drive it once again, the reset procedure has taken place, and now his traction control is functional once again, and that pisses him off.

So, my recommendation is to find the traction control fuse, and pull it.

And stay the heck off of the roads I drive on, because I don't want to risk having you hit me under the wrong circumstances.

BC.

I didn't get the same impression Blade. Correct for the sequence of events, but no where am I finding that he wants it off all the time.

If he WAS to suggest that, I'd probably react the same way. But there are legitimate reasons for wanting to disable it temporarily. I would all the time in the snow when the TCS was kicking in too quickly for me to be able to move.

BC not having TCS/DSC isn't some huge danger, I drive without both every day since I have a sport model. I do just fine in dry or wet conditions, never got to try snow for obvious reasons.

Yes, I also have a sport, and I don't spin out of control as soon as some form of water falls out of the sky and hits the ground.

But that's with me behind the wheel.
I don't trust any other drivers on the road, and I certainly don't trust those that turn off their traction and stability control devices in foul weather.

Every now and again, on another forum, some idiot comes along wanting to know how they can disable their ABS, because their tires suck so bad in the snow, they don't have enough traction when slowing down.

One of these idiots had just moved to Boulder Colorado from Texas, and had worn out crappy tires, and didn't want to buy a set of snow tires, or better quality all seasons, so she wanted to know how to disable the ABS.

I tore into her something fierce.
I owe no apologies to people wanting to disable safety systems.

BC.

Some people are just bad drivers or ignorant about driving in bad weather and what keeps them safe. I know from living in Colorado for many years that more than half of the people there have no clue how to drive in the snow safely. Out here in vegas when it rains some people are not prepared for it because it hardly ever rains and they somehow forget it gets slippery.