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fullsmoke 03-09-2009 10:00 AM

Second failing air pump... (sound clip included)
 
This is the second pump to start doing this--first one was replaced by dealer. Does yours sound like this? Also, note the horrible spin down sound @ 1:05.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPhX638aNLU

My concern is should I bother to get this fixed as I am out of warranty? I don't need to pass emissions so if I could chunk it, I'd be fine with that--BUT will losing the air pump cause an early catalytic converter failure?

I'm always embarrassed on cold startups...

FS

DOMINION 03-09-2009 06:07 PM

Dude that sounds bad. What steps have you told the dealer?

kersh4w 03-09-2009 08:14 PM

you should tell everyone you had a jet engine installed.

Jon316G 03-09-2009 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by fullsmoke (Post 2904518)
BUT will losing the air pump cause an early catalytic converter failure?

Yes!
The air pump promotes earlier light-off of the catalytic converter and earlier combustion of Hydrocarbons and Carbon Monoxide.

Razz1 03-09-2009 08:49 PM

Its not bad. It still funtions just makes noise.

Goes away after warm up, right?

Silver06 03-09-2009 09:49 PM

Talk to someone who's going Turbo. They usually pull off the airpumps.

Bad luck that you've had two of them go bad, though. Just for fun, check the voltage going to the airpump - vague possibility that something is burning up the motors. An even more vague possibility is that the outlet of the pump / tube to manifold, is somehow restricted.

G'luck.

fullsmoke 03-09-2009 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jon316G (Post 2905662)
Yes!
The air pump promotes earlier light-off of the catalytic converter and earlier combustion of Hydrocarbons and Carbon Monoxide.

This is what I was worried about. Seems like it's the same reason why all my 7s have air pumps--that's why none of my 7s have a cat :) However, I want to keep the 8 as stock as possible. Is there any way this issue could be fixed w/o buying a new pump? Or how much will one set me back?

Razz1: The noise does go away after warm-up, but the embarrassment is forever. :(

FS

fullsmoke 03-09-2009 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Silver06 (Post 2905756)
Talk to someone who's going Turbo. They usually pull off the airpumps.

Bad luck that you've had two of them go bad, though. Just for fun, check the voltage going to the airpump - vague possibility that something is burning up the motors. An even more vague possibility is that the outlet of the pump / tube to manifold, is somehow restricted.

G'luck.

I don't have the PDFs handy, but is there a blown up image of the air pump and it's workings?

Silver06 03-09-2009 10:11 PM

^ Fullsmoke,

The Service Manual has a section on testing the secondary air solenoid valve and the airpump.

PM'd.

shazy 03-09-2009 10:27 PM

Sounds awesome! I would so keep it and say "I just put a special motor".

DOMINION 03-10-2009 12:07 AM

^:rofl: no!

maskedferret 03-10-2009 12:31 AM

Aaagh!!! Kill it!!! Put it out of its misery!!!

Flashwing 03-10-2009 12:35 AM

I had an airpump sound similar and it was close to failure. I had it replaced but since I have the accessport the airpump CEL is removed. I ended up removing it. Last thing I want is an electric motor seizing under my hood and causing a fire.

You can easily remove it and then seal up the vaccum source.

fullsmoke 03-10-2009 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Silver06 (Post 2905791)
^ Fullsmoke,

The Service Manual has a section on testing the secondary air solenoid valve and the airpump.

PM'd.

Thanks! I'll get to checking that when I get some free time.

FS

DOMINION 03-12-2009 05:08 AM

Tell me this. Why would you remove it? why?

Eric1987 03-12-2009 05:22 AM

Yeah I personally think it sounds bad ass.

Flashwing 03-12-2009 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by DOMINION (Post 2910598)
Tell me this. Why would you remove it? why?

In my case, the purpose of the air pump is to bring the cat up to temperature faster for emissions purposes. I don't have a cat so technically it's totally useless. It's another electric item that can fail and removing it frees up room under the hood for more important things.


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