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jimmy 02-10-2009 12:30 PM

RX8 Engine Blew under 100,000 miles!!!!
 
I was told that Mazda has extended the warranty to 100,000 miles because of the problems with the 2004 RX8's.....I was nearing that mark and thought with my luck my motor will go after warranty. Well last month, I started my car and the engine light came on... so I drove to the dealership with around 95,985 miles..... sure enough, the next day Mazda called me to say that when they remove the number 1 spark plug anti-freeze pour out.....New motor...YEA!!!! well almost... basically it's a rebuilt stripped down motor..can't complain all new seals and water pump...etc.... also, i had them replace the clutch only paid for parts and all the hoses.... so i'm happy, i now am starting all over......

"I feel like I won the lottery" :)

Cheers!!!

dozer 02-10-2009 12:32 PM

Congrats!!!!

Jedi54 02-10-2009 12:35 PM

the reman engines are actually pretty damn good. There's a member here (Sleepy-z) who works at the plant.

Fakesky 02-13-2009 02:20 AM

I am getting a new engine too. Mine got flooded saturday mornig and I tried deflooding it but I wasn't getting any compression so I took it to the dealer and Mazda is giving me a new engine. I have 92,000 miles on it.

nycgps 02-13-2009 02:24 AM

it seems that high mileage engine failures has a lot to do with compromised coolant seals.

Potentiated 02-13-2009 03:17 AM

Once again i think many owners are not warming up the engine long enough before redlining and running hard. And once again, i firmly believe you can not depend on the temperature gauge reaching normal operating temp. i cruise on the fwy for at least a good 20 min before driving hard.

Oh, and congratulations, Jimmy.

swoope 02-13-2009 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Potentiated (Post 2865632)
Once again i think many owners are not warming up the engine long enough before redlining and running hard. And once again, i firmly believe you can not depend on the temperature gauge reaching normal operating temp. i cruise on the fwy for at least a good 20 min before driving hard.

Oh, and congratulations, Jimmy.

you do know you cannot run the engine hard and redline it in the rx8, before it is warm? that info is really covered in the owners manual.

so do you really think that is the issue with the rx8?

just wondering before you send out more miss information..

beers :beer:

Potentiated 02-13-2009 04:47 AM

Thanks, Mr. moody sardonic expert on so many things. I know I'm right on this issue or this point in the issue. Try not to call what I say misinformation EVER again. My intellect and your self-appreciation are two very different things.

The owner's manual does not talk about warming up in the way that I see is necessary. You know this. In addition, it is not hard to believe that the kinds of drivers who might own an RX8 might be pretty aggressive drivers whose idea of warming up is minimal if even sufficient at all. The point I am making is definitely ONE issue.

Is it time for another warning from the mods for you?

mazdaverx7 02-13-2009 11:50 AM

i will clarify this issue with published information directly from the owners manual for my 05 RX-8. this should help clarify the argument:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/r...b/DSC07645.jpg

9krpmrx8 02-13-2009 11:55 AM


Thanks, Mr. moody sardonic expert on so many things.
That should be in your sig Swoope!!! J/K. Sorry, that shit had me crackin'up.

trustbuddy 02-13-2009 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by potentiated (Post 2865643)
is it time for another warning from the mods for you?

lmao~!!!

ken-x8 02-13-2009 12:46 PM


i firmly believe you can not depend on the temperature gauge reaching normal operating temp
That's definitely correct. Setting aside the question of what the 8's temp gauge actually shows, it's oil temperature and not water temperature that matters.

What does the ECU monitor before it decides the engine is warm enough for high rpm?

Ken

jmc23200 02-13-2009 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Potentiated (Post 2865643)
Thanks, Mr. moody sardonic expert on so many things. I know I'm right on this issue or this point in the issue. Try not to call what I say misinformation EVER again. My intellect and your self-appreciation are two very different things.

The owner's manual does not talk about warming up in the way that I see is necessary. You know this. In addition, it is not hard to believe that the kinds of drivers who might own an RX8 might be pretty aggressive drivers whose idea of warming up is minimal if even sufficient at all. The point I am making is definitely ONE issue.

Is it time for another warning from the mods for you?



http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/r...b/DSC07645.jpg


HAHAHAHA. You should have read the freakin manual before your little rant. :pokeownedIf that wasnt enough: :op:

swoope 02-14-2009 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Potentiated (Post 2865643)
Thanks, Mr. moody sardonic expert on so many things. I know I'm right on this issue or this point in the issue. Try not to call what I say misinformation EVER again. My intellect and your self-appreciation are two very different things.

The owner's manual does not talk about warming up in the way that I see is necessary. You know this. In addition, it is not hard to believe that the kinds of drivers who might own an RX8 might be pretty aggressive drivers whose idea of warming up is minimal if even sufficient at all. The point I am making is definitely ONE issue.

Is it time for another warning from the mods for you?

i think the others posts have my info pointed out..

sorry, the way you feel necessary? do you work for mazda? you havent even read the manual..

i will just say more miss info.. and wait for you start a thread, or post in one that adds useful info in it..

and sardonic.. great word.

in real life i tend to be stoic.. but your word describes our interaction perfect.

reports to the mods. yes you are not a troll. not really sure why you are here. just keeping facts in check.

beers :beer:

swoope 02-14-2009 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 2866111)
That's definitely correct. Setting aside the question of what the 8's temp gauge actually shows, it's oil temperature and not water temperature that matters.

What does the ECU monitor before it decides the engine is warm enough for high rpm?

Ken

great point ken..

why does not obd 11 have oil temp??? that would make so much stuff so easy..

beers :beer:

ShellDude 02-14-2009 08:59 PM

The ECU monitors the coolant temperature for determining the cold redline value.

risky business 02-14-2009 09:03 PM

wow... thats awesome. i hope to get a new one before i reach 100k

staticlag 02-14-2009 10:08 PM

:suspect:

swoope 02-14-2009 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by weosc345 (Post 2867868)
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banned.

watch out for that stuff.

beers :beer:

staticlag 02-14-2009 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by swoope (Post 2867882)
banned.

watch out for that stuff.

beers :beer:

Ah, my first ban :)

StealthTL 02-14-2009 10:40 PM

The first is always the best!

I edited his link, so now it's garbage - always the icing on the ban cake.....


S

staticlag 02-14-2009 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by StealthTL (Post 2867888)
The first is always the best!

I edited his link, so now it's garbage - always the icing on the ban cake.....


S

Nice :beerchug:


It looks like he's still got some posts in Interior, Audio, & Electronics I don't have access to.

swoope 02-14-2009 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by staticlag (Post 2867886)
Ah, my first ban :)

glad i was there for you.

sucks the trolls are not so much fun now..

but does prove i have a clue! ;) :lol:

beers :beer:

lepichichi 02-16-2009 11:43 AM

congrats on the new engine

Potentiated 02-16-2009 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by mazdaverx7 (Post 2866010)
i will clarify this issue with published information directly from the owners manual for my 05 RX-8. this should help clarify the argument:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/r...b/DSC07645.jpg

This part in the owner's manual is irrelevant to what we're talking about here. In fact, I've perused the entire manual and quick start guide and there is no mention of the issue we're talking about.

jmc23200 02-16-2009 03:06 PM

Quote from that guy ^ "Once again i think many owners are not warming up the engine long enough before redlining and running hard. And once again, i firmly believe you can not depend on the temperature gauge reaching normal operating temp."

Owners Manual ""To protect the engine, when the engine coolant temp is low, the engine does not run at high speeds. The fuel will be cut at an rpm lower then the red zone."

Thats seems to be on the same topic. It says you can not redline or run hard before the engine is fully warmed up. It is a saftey feature built in that cuts off fuel to prevent the rpm's from reaching the redline before normal operating temp is reached. Seems to me you can not comprehend the enlish. So as for the low-grade Darwin Award, it has been returned to its owner.

mazdaverx7 02-16-2009 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Potentiated (Post 2869676)
This part in the owner's manual is irrelevant to what we're talking about here. In fact, I've perused the entire manual and quick start guide and there is no mention of the issue we're talking about.

if thats not what we're talking about then where were you going with this?

Potentiated 02-16-2009 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by jmc23200 (Post 2870010)
Quote from that guy ^ "Once again i think many owners are not warming up the engine long enough before redlining and running hard. And once again, i firmly believe you can not depend on the temperature gauge reaching normal operating temp."

Owners Manual ""To protect the engine, when the engine coolant temp is low, the engine does not run at high speeds. The fuel will be cut at an rpm lower then the red zone."

Thats seems to be on the same topic. It says you can not redline or run hard before the engine is fully warmed up. It is a saftey feature built in that cuts off fuel to prevent the rpm's from reaching the redline before normal operating temp is reached. Seems to me you can not comprehend the enlish. So as for the low-grade Darwin Award, it has been returned to its owner.

Once again, do some thinking on your own and for yourself, and I'm being nice here. But I don't have to be nice here because you bit yourself in the ass. You can choose to make yourself look stupid but don't do that to me.

So people can warm their car up past the engine cutoff point, yes? And plenty of people's engines are dying before 50,000 miles. How many sensors are there monitoring coolant temp (and water and oil temp located at how many points)? How many other kinds of sensors monitoring whatever other relevant factors at how many points? It's not like we have molecular-level super assay sensors monitoring the condition of water, oil, and coolant among 1000 other factors.

Let's give you just one analogy. I met a famous molecular biologist who studied capsaicin and who says chili peppers are good for you. So I asked how many factors did she study? What about old-fashioned wear and tear? I mean when you eat a lot of hot stuff, you get a bad case of diarrhea, right? When that happens, is your stomach telling you the capsaicin is good? One or a couple of positive effects of capsaicin don't paint the whole picture. Use some common sense.

We can't practically get the whole picture. Our engine sensors don't get the whole picture. The fact that I've reached a point where the engine doesn't cut off doesn't necessarily mean the coolant temp is SUFFICIENT to start driving the hell out of the car despite the fact it is sufficient to get past the engine cutoff point, which of course is somewhat arbitrarily decided by some human. To get just past engine cutoff and start driving the hell out of my car would be RETARDED.

I cruise on the fwy for at least 20 min (sometimes far longer) before I begin to redline. And I'll make sure I get my redlines in almost every time I drive my car. I'm almost 140,000 miles in southern California weather, all stock, only 5W20, never premixed, no issues ever with my car aside from coils, battery, and water pump replaced. Obviously 20 min is WAY past engine cutoff (as well as temp gauge reaching normal operating). I must be doing something right, unless you want to credit luck, which I don't because I know me and how super detailed and careful I am with everything I do. There's most likely not another RX8 and engine like mine in the world because there's probably no other owner in the world like me.

And swoope has the nerve to suggest I don't contribute to this forum? I contribute to all RX8 owners in the world because I am THE exemplar. And not only on this issue/topic.

staticlag 02-16-2009 10:47 PM

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