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cory_mcm 03-16-2010 04:56 PM

royal purple manual transmission fluid
 
I did a search and didnt see anything on transmission fluid saw a lot of problems with peoples transmissions but i didnt see any one recomend a certin brand. I went to a few places and the only manual tranny fluid was the royal purple synchromax, and i was wondering does it matter what fluid you use as long as its designed for a manual transmission?

The Reverend 03-16-2010 04:59 PM

A lot of people are happy with Redline gear oil, MT90 in the tranny

rotarygod 03-16-2010 05:06 PM

Syncromax is the wrong fluid to use and I'm sure the reason for many people not being happy with RP. Personally I use RP MaxGear 75W90 in the transmission and differential. Redline and Amsoil are also good choices.

cory_mcm 03-16-2010 05:15 PM

so i could anything that is atf 75w90? does it matter if its a synthetic oil? to me it doesnt matter the cost because whens the next time i have to change the tranny fluid 50000 miles.

BRODA 03-16-2010 09:05 PM

http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/ima..._qt_350pxh.jpg

(SEED) 03-16-2010 09:29 PM

why do people make such a big deal about RP?

its fluid........

SayNoToPistons 03-16-2010 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by (SEED) (Post 3473977)
why do people make such a big deal about RP?

its fluid........

When you have a picky transmission like the Aisin in our RX8; not just any fluid is just "fluid".

I'm using the BHR recommended Eneos 75w90. A bit loud when warmed up, but that is totally normal according to BHR. Smooth as butter.

Flashwing 03-16-2010 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 3474101)

I'm using the BHR recommended Eneos 75w90. A bit loud when warmed up, but that is totally normal according to BHR. Smooth as butter.

Glad to hear it. I tried a lot of stuff in my tranny including the RP Maxgear and the Eneos is by far the best IMO.

Junirol 03-17-2010 12:50 AM

Royal purple 75w-90 synthetic trany/diff fluid works out great. Shifting definitely alot smoother than before.

WTBRotary! 03-17-2010 01:44 AM

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ht=transmisson

People dont like Royal Purple tranny fluid because its a GL-5 fluid which has reactive sulfur which can chemically wear brass synchros... GL-4 Fluid has less a less reactive sulfur content or percentage which isnt supposed to wear the Brass synchros- From what I have read...

I do not have any personal experience with RP tranny fluids for the 6MT RX-8, I have used their fluids for when I had my auto RX-8. I used their ATF and 75W-90 for the diff...

Since I do not have any personal experience with RP tranny fluids in the MT RX-8 I cannot say the fluid will actually do this but I do not want to take a chance, which is why I chose Redline MT-90 for my Transmisson fluid and 75W-90 for the Diff. Rather safe than sorry....

(SEED) 03-17-2010 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 3474101)
When you have a picky transmission like the Aisin in our RX8; not just any fluid is just "fluid".

I'm using the BHR recommended Eneos 75w90. A bit loud when warmed up, but that is totally normal according to BHR. Smooth as butter.

well i can certainly see (different) gear oil makeing a difference on noise concerns.

But the people who claim their car got noticeably faster when using royal purple oil in their engine...... id say their full of it until i see some dyno charts and data logs.

it all sounds like some ricer shit to me

Marc_GS 03-17-2010 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by (SEED) (Post 3473977)
why do people make such a big deal about RP?

its fluid........

A lot of us who have used it have had problems. In my case, I got a 4th gear grind very shortly after starting to use it. I switched to a GL-4 fluid (Pennzoil platinum, IIRC), and it got better, but was still there.

And, for the record, I did use the Maxgear 75W90.

Solidtrance 03-17-2010 08:58 AM

Use the GL4, which is designed to be gentle to gold metals like brass synchros.

Many a parts counter guy will do their best to sell you the GL5, saying things like "supercedes the GL4" and/or "replaces GL4 for all uses". Nevertheless, there is a reason Mazda specs GL4 for the tranny and GL5 for the rear diff. In my reasearch this was backed up by my Amsoil rep, who suggested the same GL4 & GL5 package as spec'd above. Wasn't even a question for him, it was as simple as "Lube for a manual tranny, you need GL4."

lepichichi 03-17-2010 10:08 AM

i used royal purple before and my tranny was grinding from 1st to 2nd at high rpms, i then switch to redline and problem solved. Stay away from royal purple use redline.

SayNoToPistons 03-17-2010 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by (SEED) (Post 3474290)
well i can certainly see (different) gear oil makeing a difference on noise concerns.

But the people who claim their car got noticeably faster when using royal purple oil in their engine...... id say their full of it until i see some dyno charts and data logs.

it all sounds like some ricer shit to me

Where did you read that?

TeamRX8 03-18-2010 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by (SEED) (Post 3473977)
why do people make such a big deal about RP?

its fluid........


let me spell it out for you ...

r-e-t-@-r-d-e-d


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rotarygod 03-18-2010 08:39 AM

I know many people using RP in transmissions, yes even in RX-8 transmissions, that have no issues at all. I firmly believe it's how the car is treated by owners that kill transmissions and nothing else.

Solidtrance 03-18-2010 09:57 AM

RG, do you thing the diference between GL-4 and GL-5 is not a big deal? I think the problem that most people have with RP is that their local parts store only stock the GL-5 version which is great for the diff but not good for the trans. I deffinately do agree that our trans needs to be used properly. It does not respond well to voilence or rought shifts.

redcopper06 03-18-2010 10:21 AM

redline mt-90 in the tranny,
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7

and redline 75w90 + Limited Slip additive in the rear if you have L.S.
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=133&pcid=4
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=41&pcid=4

redcopper06 03-18-2010 10:22 AM

and it is a big deal. if you put the GL-5 in your tranny kiss it goodbye after about 10k miles

they are very different.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/gl5-vs-gl4-gear-oil-transmission-159398/

SayNoToPistons 03-18-2010 01:17 PM

The Eneos 75W90 fluid recommended by BHR I'm using is GL5. I highly doubt I'll be kissing my transmission good bye anytime soon.

redcopper06 03-18-2010 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 3476385)
The Eneos 75W90 fluid recommended by BHR I'm using is GL5. I highly doubt I'll be kissing my transmission good bye anytime soon.

maybe you wont, and maybe you will...
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/possible-clutch-bearing-transmissino-issue-184930/

WTBRotary! 03-18-2010 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 3476385)
The Eneos 75W90 fluid recommended by BHR I'm using is GL5. I highly doubt I'll be kissing my transmission good bye anytime soon.


Not all GL-5 fluids have the same amount of chemically reactive sulfur, I remember reading some have more and some have less than their stated value of GL-4 or GL-5... so far Eneos 75W-90 is the only GL-5 Fluid that works in the RX-8 Transmisson and is fine...

evolvnola 03-18-2010 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Flashwing (Post 3474110)
Glad to hear it. I tried a lot of stuff in my tranny including the RP Maxgear and the Eneos is by far the best IMO.

did you try the ams oil

SayNoToPistons 03-18-2010 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by WTBRotary! (Post 3476586)
Not all GL-5 fluids have the same amount of chemically reactive sulfur, I remember reading some have more and some have less than their stated value of GL-4 or GL-5... so far Eneos 75W-90 is the only GL-5 Fluid that works in the RX-8 Transmisson and is fine...

I'm well aware of that. Unfortunately, some aren't.


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