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Dan=RX8 01-21-2013 06:21 PM

N3R3 starter motor needed
 
I am trying to locate a N3R3 starter motor for my rx8, any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks

nycgps 01-21-2013 07:43 PM

it will be great if you can take advantage of something called "Google" aka SEARCH

jamesf 01-21-2013 09:44 PM

contact mazmart and ask them if they have any used. I got a used one from them a few months back for my 05. Works great. Just make sure you tighten everything down on install. ;)

Dan=RX8 01-22-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by jamesf (Post 4413525)
contact mazmart and ask them if they have any used. I got a used one from them a few months back for my 05. Works great. Just make sure you tighten everything down on install. ;)

Thanks james i'll give them a shout mate.

j9fd3s 01-23-2013 01:06 PM

any dealership can get one, so as usual location isn't the problem, its the price....

ASH8 01-24-2013 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by Dan=RX8 (Post 4413417)
I am trying to locate a N3R3 starter motor for my rx8, any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks

M8 it would be really good if you could first fill out some details about yourself and your car...

It appears you are in UK?..correct?

ASH8 01-24-2013 03:00 AM

To answer your question ...

Seeing you are in the UK...I guess..

The N3R3-18-400 was first used in the Series 2 RX-8 manual (or R3 in UK), Yes it will fit ALL manual RX-8's, it is 14 tooth Starter Drive.

You have a few choices...

Either buy direct from a UK Mazda Dealer...I gave you the full Part Number..

or you buy from a US Mazda Dealer, but they are now only selling Reman units N3R3-18-400 R00 for $475.00.

What is your allowable UK imports before Duty, Tax, I think only 25 pounds?..

Dan=RX8 01-26-2013 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4415532)
M8 it would be really good IF you could first fill out some details about yourself and your car...

It appears you are in UK?..correct?

Yeah I'm in the uk my rx8 is on an 04 plate but need the N3R3 starter for it.

bse50 01-26-2013 07:19 AM

Are you experiencing hot starting problems?

RotaryResurrection 01-29-2013 11:41 AM

How does the N3R3 differ from the N3Z1?

Mazmart 01-29-2013 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 4418407)
How does the N3R3 differ from the N3Z1?

I may have a picture for physical visual differences. The pinion drive gear is exposed on the 09. They are both much better than the 04-early 05 units. N3H1-18-400A, NZ31-18-400 and N3R3-18-400 are all much quicker than the original.

Kevin, if I can find a pic I'll put it up.

Dan, we should have one. Send a pm to Sheldon (Mazmart "6"). He will help.

Paul.

ASH8 01-29-2013 01:47 PM

N3R3 (S2) is open faced as Paul said and has a 14 tooth drive gear not a 13 in N3Z1 and 11 in the original weak Starters.

BTW: Be careful many of these 'cheap' eBay RX-8 Starters are the old 11 tooth weak units.
N3R3 (S2) will fit on S1.

ASH8 01-29-2013 01:58 PM

N3Z1 is or should I say was an interim supply Starter for a TSB ONLY and in fact is no longer supplied.

All suppliers should be using/recommending the Series 2 Starters, even @ $50 more for all RX-8's :)

RotaryResurrection 01-29-2013 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 4418442)
I may have a picture for physical visual differences. The pinion drive gear is exposed on the 09. They are both much better than the 04-early 05 units. N3H1-18-400A, NZ31-18-400 and N3R3-18-400 are all much quicker than the original.

Kevin, if I can find a pic I'll put it up.

Dan, we should have one. Send a pm to Sheldon (Mazmart "6"). He will help.

Paul.


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4418476)
N3R3 (S2) is open faced as Paul said and has a 14 tooth drive gear not a 13 in N3Z1 and 11 in the original weak Starters.

BTW: Be careful many of these 'cheap' eBay RX-8 Starters are the old 11 tooth weak units.
N3R3 (S2) will fit on S1.


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4418484)
N3Z1 is or should I say was an interim supply Starter for a TSB ONLY and in fact is no longer supplied.

All suppliers should be using/recommending the Series 2 Starters, even @ $50 more for all RX-8's :)

Thanks for the info. I don't stay "in the loop" on part numbers and the new parts stream very often.

TeamRX8 01-30-2013 12:32 AM

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anybody know anything about this aftermarket one? It appears to have the 13 tooth gear.

edit: nm, appears to be a rebadged Saenz racing starter

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1359527442

.

jamesf 01-30-2013 01:06 AM

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For any one who is wondering here is a picture of an N3R3 starter from a 2009.

The N3R3 is the one closest to the camera with the yellow writing. A bit hard to see but you can notice that there is no shield on the N3R3

The one further in the back is a failing N3H1-18-400A that was on my car when I purchased it. The N3R3 starter spins much faster than my reman N3H1-18-400A. The 400A I believe had the 2KW rating upgraded from previous S1 stock but it did not have the 14 tooth faster spin.

Attachment 228034

Thanks again Mazmart (Also just in case if any1 is worried, it fits on the S1. Mine is a 2005)

ASH8 01-30-2013 01:54 AM

Original Equipment N3R2-18-400 Starters were initially used for Series 2 AUTO Trans only.

N3R3-18-400 is Series 2 Manual Trans.

These Original Equipment part and part numbers never existed before Series 2 in 2009 (April 2008 vehicle production to be exact)...

ASH8 01-30-2013 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4418789)
N3R2 is the current S1 starter

anybody know anything about this aftermarket one? It appears to have the 13 tooth gear.

edit: nm, appears to be a rebadged Saenz racing starter

No, N3R2 is OE Part Number for S2 AUTO Starter.

ASH8 01-30-2013 02:13 AM

Mazda Dealers and those who source OE Mazda Parts from MNAO still list 3 separate reman Starters for all Series RX-8's, 2 for S1, 2 for S2.
S2 Auto is still NOT a reman yet, and S2 Manual Trans is a reman.

N3H1-18-400 R0A S1 Manual reman
N3R3-18-400 R00 S2 Manual reman

N3H2-18-400 R0B S1 Auto reman
N3R2-18-400 S2 Auto (not reman, brand new OEM), and more expensive.

TeamRX8 01-31-2013 07:59 PM

anyway I sent a note asking someone there to look into the discrepancy and let me know. Thanks for pointing it out.

ASH8 01-31-2013 08:07 PM

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I don't care what Mazda Motorsport website says...they are wrong, or your interpretation, please give a llink...

ALL N3R2's are for AUTO Trans ONLY, a Starter which WILL NOT fit on a Manual Trans Rotary....

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1359684757

TeamRX8 02-07-2013 09:21 PM

I had every intention to come back and correct it if my posted info was incorrect and you are right, it was incorrectly placed there by the Motorsports personnel. Just the same it was the info I had at the moment.

ASH8 02-07-2013 09:32 PM

Who exactly is being 'petty'...I suggest you look in the mirror.

You continue to deliberately bait other members for an argument because you do not agree with what their opinion is and offer (in most cases) no constructive advice on subject matter...perhaps if you did other moderators including myself would not remove 'some' of your posts.

I suggest you take it up with Admin.

Mazmart 02-07-2013 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4423733)
Who exactly is being 'petty'...I suggest you look in the mirror.

You continue to deliberately bait other members for an argument because you do not agree with what their opinion is and offer (in most cases) no constructive advice on subject matter...perhaps if you did other moderators including myself would not remove 'some' of your posts.

I suggest you take it up with Admin.

No need for a fight. Team seems on good behavior here. I think everyone is making good contribution in this thread.

Smile everyone. We can all get along. :)

Paul.

TeamRX8 02-07-2013 09:41 PM

yes, you can keep deleting my viewpoint from the thread in spite of the fact that I can't respond in kind, even though I would never do that even if I could. The only person deleting/modifying my posts or closing threads is you and it's mostly when you can't handle debating my challenge to you on technical merits. In the S2 thread you just repeatedly deleted my post from there was nothing in there that isn't all over this and every other forum. If posting a facepalm picture or :facepalm; text is a violation then we might as well eliminate 40% of the membership


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