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brillo 09-09-2009 08:05 PM

Low idle RPM during deceleration and at a stop (Dirty Throttle Body?)
 
I've done a bit of searching and I think I know the answer, but I want to be mostly sure. I have a '04 RX8, 68K mi, mostly stock other than a K&N filter and high-flow cat. The car is not throwing any CELs and shows ready on my scan gauge. Power seems fine, and driving and cruising seems normal. Mileage has also been good as of late.

For some reason, earlier this week I noticed that after the engine is warm, upon deceleration or while waiting at the stop, the RPM would drop suddenly into the 600-700rpm range and hold in that range before hoping up to 950-1100rpm and settling down. This happens both with and without the A/C running. The car has been idling rougher than normal with the A/C in general. I cleaned the MAF and checked the filter last weekend (prior to the issue, just part of my regular maintenance).

I think the TB is likely dirty. I have cleaned it before, but I'm not sure I did it well enough. As the car is not throwing a CEL, and the car is driving fine other than those instances, I can't think of another cause.

If I should clean the TB, should I remove it this time? Any suggestions on the best way to clean it? I can get TB cleaner, but I don't want to damage the motor on the TB plate. What is the best method for cleaning the TB?

I'm open to other thoughts on what could cause this, and I'd rather fix it myself first before going to the dealer.

swoope 09-11-2009 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by brillo (Post 3215838)
I've done a bit of searching and I think I know the answer, but I want to be mostly sure. I have a '04 RX8, 68K mi, mostly stock other than a K&N filter and high-flow cat. The car is not throwing any CELs and shows ready on my scan gauge. Power seems fine, and driving and cruising seems normal. Mileage has also been good as of late.

For some reason, earlier this week I noticed that after the engine is warm, upon deceleration or while waiting at the stop, the RPM would drop suddenly into the 600-700rpm range and hold in that range before hoping up to 950-1100rpm and settling down. This happens both with and without the A/C running. The car has been idling rougher than normal with the A/C in general. I cleaned the MAF and checked the filter last weekend (prior to the issue, just part of my regular maintenance).

I think the TB is likely dirty. I have cleaned it before, but I'm not sure I did it well enough. As the car is not throwing a CEL, and the car is driving fine other than those instances, I can't think of another cause.

If I should clean the TB, should I remove it this time? Any suggestions on the best way to clean it? I can get TB cleaner, but I don't want to damage the motor on the TB plate. What is the best method for cleaning the TB?

I'm open to other thoughts on what could cause this, and I'd rather fix it myself first before going to the dealer.

tb answer is in pm

but also,

check plug wires, tight..
plug time? 20k miles, done.
coils?
just for fun. pull room fuse and do the brake dance and see what happens..

btw, someone say fuel pump? doubt it, but.

beers :beer:

rotarygod 09-11-2009 11:50 AM

Brillo lives!!!!! You haven't posted here in a really long time.

StormyWankel 09-11-2009 12:05 PM

I've got the EXACT same problem...brake dance didn't help, car has 20k miles on it and I'm assuming the plugs were never changed by the previous owner so I'm in the process of trying that fix. If cleaning the TB works for you, let me know...

brillo 09-11-2009 12:17 PM

I live, I just lurk :)

Work, girls, school take up alot of what was my car time.

I think I need to reconsider this whole adult thing, its overrated....

Brettus 09-11-2009 01:40 PM

I see a compression check in your future . BTW welcome back to the forums :)

brillo 09-11-2009 03:12 PM

I've had a compression test done at 59,xxx, it was fine. If I was having compression issues I woul have mileage / power drop off me thinks.

brillo 09-13-2009 03:23 PM

cleaning the TB and resetting the computer seems to have fixed the issue at this point, I'll watch it this week to be sure as it has not completed all the drive cycles necessary to show ready on my scan gauge.

TheWulf 09-13-2009 05:58 PM

Let me know if your problem returns. I have the same problem (had it for a while) and today I had this problem.

Thinking they might be related.

Bigbacon 09-14-2009 06:12 AM

if your plugs and what not are messed, wouldn't you have problems when not idling also?

SEANMAC777 09-14-2009 11:28 AM

I dont know if this has anything to do with it...but I just put Borla Exhaust on my car yesterday. My car is doing close to the same thing, except it just dies instead of hopping back up. It runs perfectly, no rough idle or anything, except after I have driven it for awhile, when I'm coasting up to a stop sign, it will just die.

It had never done it before I put the exhaust on it, and then it did it like...10 times or so the same day.

Is this normal after you put new exhaust on at first? Or would you guys suggest doing the same checks you have told Brillo? I was getting ready to search it, but found this post was still alive so I thought I would ask here first.. Thanks.

swoope 09-17-2009 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 3218788)
Brillo lives!!!!! You haven't posted here in a really long time.

who are you?

and i heard you drive a honda. and like it!

allen has my #. yet you jump in here! ;) nice to see you around!

jackass! :) :lol:

beers :beer:


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