An Interesting Cold Start Concept
So I was having a conversation with my grandfather and somehow we started talking cars. He told me that every morning, when he starts his car up, he holds the throttle down (like on our cars) and cranks the engine for a couple of seconds before releasing the throttle and letting it fire up. According to him, it circulates the oil to aid in cold start lubrication. This seemed somewhat feasible to me I guess, so I want to know what you guys think. Could holding the throttle down on our cars (or any car for that matter) and cranking it a few seconds first before starting it really decrease cold start bearing wear?
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It might save a little wear - it might also confuse the ECU. :dunno:
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Holding the pedal down while cranking will keep the car from starting. Oil would be circulated as well. Would that help? I dunno, as soon as you crank it normally oil is being pumped anyhow. I use a 0W oil so it flows plenty well when cold.
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I realize it doesn't start when you hold the accelerator. My thoughts were that when you circulate the oil first by holding the accelerator, the engine is turning at a much lower rpm than at idle, so the oil is being circulated without the wear occurring..But I don't know lol. I was thinking about holding the accelerator down and cranking it for a few seconds before releasing it and allowing it to start. Also would be more wear on the starter though..
I might do it on those mornings that it's in the single digits outside. Couldn't hurt |
Turn your key to the "ON" position and wait 2-4 seconds before cranking the engine over. The omp will inject a small amount of oil into the rotary chambers to aid in lubricating before start-up.
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^ is that so..
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
(Post 4425602)
^ is that so..
I already fell for that once. |
Originally Posted by fish1
(Post 4425597)
Turn your key to the "ON" position and wait 2-4 seconds before cranking the engine over. The omp will inject a small amount of oil into the rotary chambers to aid in lubricating before start-up.
I haven't heard about that yet lol and I have done my fair share of reading. ;) |
Oil injected in the combustion chamber doesn't help the entire engine from cold start lubrication issues.
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Originally Posted by jamesf
(Post 4425669)
I already fell for that once.
your grandpa should join the forum, he will fit right in with all the other mad scientists ... but actually Mazda recommends this in a no-start/flooded situation because the latest flash kicks the OMP in high mode to "inject" oil at the maximum rate when the throttle is held WOT while the engine is cranked, not quite what Gramps had in mind though the only way for the OMP to inject anything is for the engine to be turning over, which means it has to either be cranking or running . |
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4425694)
Oil injected in the combustion chamber doesn't help the entire engine from cold start lubrication issues.
I was talking about circulating the actual motor oil. I thought holding the throttle just cut fuel & spark. Didn't know it requested oil from the OMP I may not even have the latest flash lol...I need to check about that. I haven't had the car that long |
As a grandpa myself, I'm old enough to remember when you'd depress the throttle slightly as you cranked. And when you'd floor it once and release it in cold weather, to set the choke. Also when you'd rev the engine as you shut it off.
This is making me very nostalgic for carburetors. Now where did I put that Jiffy kit? :) Ken |
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Originally Posted by ken-x8
(Post 4425890)
As a grandpa myself, I'm old enough to remember when you'd depress the throttle slightly as you cranked. And when you'd floor it once and release it in cold weather, to set the choke. Also when you'd rev the engine as you shut it off.
This is making me very nostalgic for carburetors. Now where did I put that Jiffy kit? :) Ken Pumping the accelerator before you crank it on cold mornings...and yeah bumping the throttle to lower the idle and shut the choke off. My t-bird only has 51k original miles on the clock! I wish I had the funds to get my T-Bird running again :crying: The pictures are from last February, the last day the t-bird ran, I believe.. |
What about after you turn the engine off--Immediately hold the throttle down and turn it over a few times to clear it out while it is setting?
I dont do that but I know of someone that does and he swears his sparkplugs come out much much cleaner? I dont know..but it is interesting to think about. |
Originally Posted by olddragger
(Post 4426116)
What about after you turn the engine off--Immediately hold the throttle down and turn it over a few times to clear it out while it is setting?
I dont do that but I know of someone that does and he swears his sparkplugs come out much much cleaner? I dont know..but it is interesting to think about. |
As soon as you turn the engine over, cold start wear will happen either way. Might as well get things warmed up as quickly as possible.
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Sigh... if only our 8's had fuel injection.
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Originally Posted by Beodude
(Post 4426870)
As soon as you turn the engine over, cold start wear will happen either way. Might as well get things warmed up as quickly as possible.
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Originally Posted by New Yorker
(Post 4426951)
Sigh... if only our 8's had fuel injection.
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