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Murderbus 06-23-2009 10:42 PM

how do I make an Oil return line gasket from OEM pan?
 
I purchased a used turbo kit from a site member and the kit wont include an oil pan. The seller told me there is a way to custom drill my OEM pan and it would work. Here is what he said.

Seller-"No the oil pan is not part of the kit. I have the greddy pan but its on my car. You can use the stock pan. It will have to be drilled and taped for the oil feed lines for the turbo. If you buy a greddy pan it already has a place for a turbo line. I think i payed almost 400 for my greddy pan new"

Seller-"Your best bet will be to call a few places. They sell a kit just for this kind of thing but i cant recall what its called. If you have the extra money i would buy the greddy pan. If you don't get the greddy pan. Get your self a extra oem pan that you can tap. Just in case you make a error. And it will be easier that way. "

Unfortuneatly I dont have any extra money for a Greddy pan so I was looking to get some information about this procedure to DIY.
OR..
Does anybody happen to know what the premade kit is called so I can search for one on the net?

Thanks
-MurderBus

MazdaManiac 06-23-2009 11:37 PM

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KRMRX8 06-23-2009 11:50 PM

oil pan return line
 

Originally Posted by Murderbus (Post 3084079)
I purchased a used turbo kit from a site member and the kit wont include an oil pan. The seller told me there is a way to custom drill my OEM pan and it would work. Here is what he said.

Seller-"No the oil pan is not part of the kit. I have the greddy pan but its on my car. You can use the stock pan. It will have to be drilled and taped for the oil feed lines for the turbo. If you buy a greddy pan it already has a place for a turbo line. I think i payed almost 400 for my greddy pan new"

Seller-"Your best bet will be to call a few places. They sell a kit just for this kind of thing but i cant recall what its called. If you have the extra money i would buy the greddy pan. If you don't get the greddy pan. Get your self a extra oem pan that you can tap. Just in case you make a error. And it will be easier that way. "

Unfortuneatly I dont have any extra money for a Greddy pan so I was looking to get some information about this procedure to DIY.
OR..
Does anybody happen to know what the premade kit is called so I can search for one on the net?

Thanks
-MurderBus

As a former owner of a twin turbo 3SI car, it can be done. What you can do is this:
1. drain and remove the oil pan.
2. go to Sears auto section or any store that sells tools. Get a tap to make the threads that will match the size of the fitting you will use for the oil return line, the line coming off the turbo. Summit Racing carries many sizes for stainless braided lines and the fittings for these. Get the lines that are rated for at least 220 F temps and are of the oil resistant liners.
3. drill the hole ABOVE the maximum oil level in the pan.
4. by hand, slowly turn the tap in one revolution, then back it out slowly...be sure to tap the threads at a 90 degree angle to the pan.
Lubricate the tap with oil to make it easier to turn.
5. install the threaded male fitting a half turn more after hand tight or bottom it out gently using a round gasket. Double check to be sure that the oil return line does not touch or comes no closer than within 2 inches of the exhaust.
6. Double check the Air fuel controller you are using is correctly calibrated.
7. Double check that the aftermarket wide band O2 sensor is calibrated correctly...as you know, rotary engines do not handle any knock as a piston engine can do for very brief moments.

Installing an oil pan return line is easy if you are patient.
If anyone else has alternative methods, I am sure they will chime in.

Fast Old Guy in MN

MazdaManiac 06-23-2009 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by KRMRX8 (Post 3084140)
3. drill the hole ABOVE the maximum oil level in the pan.

Not possible on our car.

KRMRX8 06-24-2009 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3084148)
Not possible on our car.

Ack_ my mistake. I misread the earlier post on what he was looking for..gasket fitting vs simply how to do the return. It looks like your earlier post with Link shows the issues more clearly.
It seems these RX8's are a bear to modify.
I just picked up a new RX8 40 th. Anniversary with sport package for a song at the dealership and have been looking into a turbo setup, but the dealership gave me a Free, no deductible, lifetime warranty on the whole drive train so I am hesitant to mod the car.
It is getting 23.3 at 75 mph sustained driving for a three hour trip but it sure could use a bit more torque. Now I see why many want the turbo upgrade.

Murderbus 06-24-2009 01:17 AM

thank you for the link to information MazdaManiac.

MazdaManiac 06-24-2009 01:22 AM

NP.
Which turbo kit do you have?

laythor 06-24-2009 01:28 AM

MM being helpful without any sarcasm... what is the world coming to? I'm just so ashamed.

MazdaManiac 06-24-2009 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3084248)
MM being helpful without any sarcasm... what is the world coming to? I'm just so ashamed.

Well, it wasn't a stupid question! What am I supposed to do? :smoker:

Brettus 06-24-2009 02:05 AM

I put my turbo drain straight into the existing drain . Not sure what Greddy supplies with a new kit because I did not have it .
I went to a place that makes hydraulic hoses and had them fabricate a fitting for me just for the job. Way less hassle than removing the pan .....
Means I have to pull the hose off every time i change the oil but it has not been an issue .

Murderbus 06-24-2009 05:24 AM

I bought the kit from Ti Carbon. Here is the link pictures of the kit that I bought.

https://www.rx8club.com/ne-sale-wanted-140/ny-4-sale-turbo-kit-rims-more-176011/

I havnt received the kit yet, but would like to have all the necessary parts together ready for installation when I have the time. (Which will be a few months, having my vehicle shipped over to SKorea from stateside.)

epikeddie 12-21-2009 07:20 PM

It's a Greddy Kit that you have there.

Again, so you are left with two options:

- Drill and tap your stock oil pan.

- Buy a modified oil pan like the Greddy Oil Pan. I believe Race Roots had a high capacity oil pan as well.

I've had a few turbocharged cars including my Miata that originally did not come with a turbo. I had to do the drill the pan method on all of them because they didn't have aftermarket oil pans available. If you take your time, it's not that hard of a job. Just make sure that when you tap it, you're very careful. You don't want to mess up those threads - you only get one shot.

StealthTL 12-21-2009 07:55 PM

Just use the fitting that (should) come with the kit.

It's a drainplug that has a hose fitting on it, so you just loosen the hose clamp (no need to remove) then spin the plug out and move the hose aside to let the oil out.
Thread the plug back in and tighten the clamp back up.

Both eazy and peazy.

czar 12-30-2009 09:21 AM

my drain plug was missing also, when i asked raceroots guy he said it was 100$ or so for the fitting to get a new one from greddy


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