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Shijin-Kun 08-06-2010 04:34 PM

How to do a compression test.
 
Wanted to see if i could get some instructions on how to do a compression test. My friend is supplying the compression tester that he uses on rx7s. So he is not sure the steps on how to do it for the rx8. Any help would be great.

Jon316G 08-06-2010 04:40 PM

Steps are pretty much the same.
On most modern fuel-injected rotary engines you remove the EGI fuse(s) to disable the ignition.
On the RX8, you disconnect the eshaft sensor.
Other than that... steps should be the same.

Compression numbers for the RX8 @ 250rpm:
Standard = 120psi
Minimum = 98.6psi

Shijin-Kun 08-06-2010 04:47 PM

Is possible to get some pics or locations of the egi fuse and the eshaft sensor?

Jon316G 08-06-2010 04:52 PM

1 Attachment(s)
The EGI fuse removal are on other rotary engines.
So on the RX8, we disconnect the eshaft sensor:
Attachment 160467

Do you know which compression tester your friend has?
Is it from Rotary Diagnostics? If so, I can send you the user manuals.

Shijin-Kun 08-06-2010 04:54 PM

ill find out. Thanks for the pic.

Shijin-Kun 08-06-2010 06:08 PM

They use this. http://www.twistedrotors.com/index.html
There is an instructions manual. So for the rx8 all i have to do is disconnect the eshaft sensor then do the test?

Jon316G 08-06-2010 08:20 PM

Disconnecting the eshaft sensor disables the ignition, but you still need to disable the fuel pump.
There is a 20A FUEL PUMP fuse that needs to be removed.

My tester is different, but the idea is pretty much the same.
After the fuse is removed and the EPS disconnected, remove the leading spark plug and insert the transducer.
Crank the engine for 5sec (no more than 10) and observe the readout.
Now you need to "normalize" the results for 250rpm so you can compare it to Mazda's specs.

I use this Rotary Compression Calculator:
http://foxed.ca/foxed/index.php?page=rotarycalc
AND REMEMBER TO ALSO DOWNLOAD "NI LabVIEW 2009 Run-time Engine Minimal Redistributable" ALSO.
Make sure you choose the Renesis under the 'Engine' drop-down.

Mazda's Specs:
Standard = 120psi @ 250rpm
Minimum = 98.6psi @ 250rpm

Shijin-Kun 08-06-2010 08:53 PM

Do I still have to turn on the car and let it warm up before the test?

Jon316G 08-06-2010 08:57 PM

YES... very important!
Just take it out for a drive around the city until the temp gauge is about half way.

Shijin-Kun 08-10-2010 11:07 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Ok i got the reading now. This is what i got.

Jon316G 08-10-2010 11:32 PM

Sorry... can't view photobucket pics at work...
What are your numbers and are they normalized?

Shijin-Kun 08-10-2010 11:33 PM

try again

Jon316G 08-10-2010 11:37 PM

Just curious... how many miles on the car and is this the original motor?

Shijin-Kun 08-10-2010 11:40 PM

it has around 90k miles and as far as i know its the original engine.

Jon316G 08-10-2010 11:55 PM

If thats the original motor, those numbers aren't too bad for the mileage.
I can tell you have the original starter :)

Shijin-Kun 08-11-2010 12:01 AM

lol is it something to get it replaced over by mazda or is that fine? Is there something wrong with my starter?

Jon316G 08-11-2010 12:05 AM

Do you have trouble starting?
Do you notice it takes several cranks to get it going?
The upgraded starters have a bigger motor (or more coil windings) so it produces more torque.
On my original starter doing a compression test, my best RPM was 177.
On my upgraded starter, the best RPM was 248 (going off of memory).

Watch the following and see if your car sounds like this:
http://www.vimeo.com/3653485

Shijin-Kun 08-11-2010 01:43 AM

i haven't had troubles starting. and my car does sound like the one in the video after you installed the new battery.

Stroudism 08-19-2010 01:49 PM

I have trouble starting my car. Always starts, but takes several cranks. Where can I get an upgraded starter and how much are they? Is it easy to install? I just installed a starter on my friend's Camry and wasn't bad.


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