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HID's?
Hey guys this is my first post. I picked up the RX8 about two weeks ago. I’ve had so much fun driving it, now it's time for some mods. Here's the first on my to do list; changing the OEM HID bulbs? Does anyone know what the Kelvin, the color rating is for the OEM HID equipped RX8’s?
I don’t know if anyone noticed that they are rather weak for HID’s. When ever I drive the RX8 at night I can’t help but to notice that other cars that have OEM HID’s are putting out way more light. Anyone notice this? And for the record I have a 6sp with Sports and Touring packages. |
Welcome to the boards You'll find that it's EXTREMEY useful
Anyways, this should help you: This'll make it easier to upgrade bulbs! 2004 MAZDA RX-8 BULB CODE LIST Headlights-Halogen High Beam-(2)-H9 OR #9005 Headlights-Halogen Low Beam (Non-Xenon-Equipped Cars)-(2) H7 Headlights-Xenon Low Beam-(2) D2S 35W Halogen Foglights-(2)-H11 F/R Blinkers-(4)-7440 Brake/Tail-(2)-7443 Reverse bulbs-(2)-7440 Running Lights,Rear(two on each red corner)(4,total)-LEDs Corner Markers,front-(2)-194 Map Lights,interior-(2)-194 Lower Door Lights-(2)-194 Parking Lights(small lights on front nearest Mazda logo)(2)-194 Lisc plate light-(1)-194 UPDATE, 05.17.2004----- NEW LISTINGS SYLVANIA'S BULB CODE LIST FOR 2004 MAZDA RX-8 with HID LIGHTING (Non-HID is available at the link provided-) (All are 100% road-legal bulbs in the USA) Link: http://www.sylvania.com/bin/carApp/...2FL&x=18&y=10#2 **Yes,"2825" and "194" are the same bulbs.....some of these codes are sylvania spec'd,I believe,so mesh both lists.... Low beam headlamp Part number = HID-D2S High beam headlamp Part number = H9-65W Parking light Part number = 2825 Tail light Part number = 7443 Stop light Part number = 7443 High mount stop light Part number = 7440 Fog/Driving light Part number = H11-55W License plate Part number = 2825 Back up light Part number = 7440 Front sidemarker Part number = 194 Upgrade Part Number = 194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp Rear sidemarker Part number = LED Map light Part number = 2825 Dome light Part number = DE3175 Step/Courtesy light Part number = 2825 Trunk/Cargo area Part number = 2825 |
Yes that is very hepful, thank you. However you didn't answer my question? What temp/color is the OEM HID rated at? ie, 4300K, 5000K, 6000K...? Thanks
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Originally Posted by momo
Yes that is very hepful, thank you. However you didn't answer my question? What temp/color is the OEM HID rated at? ie, 4300K, 5000K, 6000K...? Thanks
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See if you can post a before/after photo of the lights on when you get a chance to see the diff..Ive been thinking of doing the same thing.
Oh and welcome to the boards,I love this place. shark |
Mistaken.....
Just a correction to your bulb list,
the headlight is H9, 9005 will NOT fit. The housing mount is the same, but the wiring will not 'plug&play'. S |
Originally Posted by momo
Hey guys this is my first post. I picked up the RX8 about two weeks ago. I’ve had so much fun driving it, now it's time for some mods. Here's the first on my to do list; changing the OEM HID bulbs? Does anyone know what the Kelvin, the color rating is for the OEM HID equipped RX8’s?
I don’t know if anyone noticed that they are rather weak for HID’s. When ever I drive the RX8 at night I can’t help but to notice that other cars that have OEM HID’s are putting out way more light. Anyone notice this? And for the record I have a 6sp with Sports and Touring packages. The main problem of our yellowish HID compared to S2000 seems like because of shitty projectors we have. If you shine your lights on a white wall, ie. garage door, you will know what I mean. RX8 HID produces not so great yellowish cutoff line compared to bluish rainbow cutoff line of S2000. However, ours shines pretty good on sides. Also yellowish color will fade away by the time goes (color shift). Hope this helps. :) |
Originally Posted by StealthTL
Just a correction to your bulb list,
the headlight is H9, 9005 will NOT fit. The housing mount is the same, but the wiring will not 'plug&play'. S It's from the bulb list thread. It ain't my list ;) |
Originally Posted by jnam27
You will never gonna get a better visibility out of higher color temperature bulbs. The OEM HID bulbs of RX8 are Philips 85122+. The color temp is 4200K with 3400 lumen output. By increasing color temperature you will lose significant light output (I believe Philips Ultinons (6000K) outputs only ~2400 lumen).
The main problem of our yellowish HID compared to S2000 seems like because of shitty projectors we have. If you shine your lights on a white wall, ie. garage door, you will know what I mean. RX8 HID produces not so great yellowish cutoff line compared to bluish rainbow cutoff line of S2000. However, ours shines pretty good on sides. Also yellowish color will fade away by the time goes (color shift). Hope this helps. :) A friend who has a Mazda6 with OEM projectors also put an HID kit in his car. I told him about my concern so we parked our cars side by side just to compare our HID’s. His HID’s out performed the RX8. I don’t think that the RX8 has 4300K color bulbs they appear too blueish? Are the projectors from the RX8 different from the Miata’s/Mazda6? |
Welcome aboard Momo. I think "RotaryRasp" has the stock HID's with upgraded bulbs. 8000k I believe. Send him a pm. :D
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Originally Posted by momo
We had a 2002 Miata that had projectors and I installed an HID kit. Let me tell you those sucker would really light up the road. BMW and Audi's were the only cars that slightly produced brighter output.
A friend who has a Mazda6 with OEM projectors also put an HID kit in his car. I told him about my concern so we parked our cars side by side just to compare our HID’s. His HID’s out performed the RX8. I don’t think that the RX8 has 4300K color bulbs they appear too blueish? Are the projectors from the RX8 different from the Miata’s/Mazda6? RX8 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/DSC02331.jpg S2000 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/DSC02330.jpg See the difference? The only way you can increase the light output (beam strength, not color. You can change color by using higher temp. bulb, but it's gonna be dimmer than OEM), I think, is retrofitting the projectors from other vehicle, ie. S2000, into RX8 headlight. It's not gonna be easy. |
jnam27, thank for the pics. I only wish I had pic of the Miata and the RX8 side by side with the HID's on. I still have the HID kit from the Miata, anyone know if I change swap out bulbs without taking apart the bumper?
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Originally Posted by momo
jnam27, thank for the pics. I only wish I had pic of the Miata and the RX8 side by side with the HID's on. I still have the HID kit from the Miata, anyone know if I change swap out bulbs without taking apart the bumper?
*edit* Whoops didn't see you had the oem hid already, you'll still have to remove the bumper and bezles, dont worry about the ballasts and igniters. Just switch out the bulbs with some new ones, and you should be good to go. |
Originally Posted by momo
jnam27, thank for the pics. I only wish I had pic of the Miata and the RX8 side by side with the HID's on. I still have the HID kit from the Miata, anyone know if I change swap out bulbs without taking apart the bumper?
If you want to swap the Miata HID CONVERSION kit with RX8 OEM HID, its not gonna work. I don't know what kind of bulb (H4, 9006???) Miata uses, but RX8 OEM HID uses D2S bulb type. |
Originally Posted by jnam27
TxRx8: I think he already has OEM HIDs on his RX8, doesn't he?
Anyways, those S2000 projectors kick some serious ass. Retrofitting these into an 8 would be a bitch. |
Originally Posted by TxRx8
Yeah dude, my bad I edited, my earlier post. :p
Anyways, those S2000 projectors kick some serious ass. Retrofitting these into an 8 would be a bitch. |
Originally Posted by jnam27
Yeah, those S2000 projectors are awesome. :) Funny thing is that they are manufactured by the same company (Kioto (sp?)/Stanley) who manufactures our projectors. It's really unfair that S2000 got those great projectors while we got these shitty projectors from the same company, Isn't it? :rolleyes:
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