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Ricky SE3P 05-21-2011 05:36 PM

HELP!!! Issues after new engine! (Not Resolved Yet)
 
Okay well its not me with the issue, my friend's 8 motor blew so she had to get a new one. The motor is finally in but its having a lot of stalling issues at the moment and any diagnostic tools are unable to connect/communicate with the car. It's a 2004 GT with everything but the nav system and roughly 84k miles. what could be the problem/where should we look? :dunno:

EDIT: Update to the issue, this is where it stands on 6/8/2011, everything else we solved.

Originally Posted by itsdidihi (Post 3999497)
ooooook.. It's been a couple weeks but here's whats going on. Finally got the clutch fixed. It was losing pressure because the clutch line had split right down the center. Got it replaced with a Russel Stainless Steel Braided clutch line, bled the system, and got my pressure back. Clutch working great. Took a look under the car at those damned switches as well. What happened was that one of the white ones seems to have gotten caught somewhere under the car and also split. So my boyfriend fixed that and no more check engine light.

So everything is almost good......

Except that the car is still idling low and stalling on me everytime I decelerate or stop the car. Well it's trying to. I can keep the car running by slowing down without the break and making sure i keep tapping the gas periodically. But if I leave the car in neutral with no pedals or decelerate without keeping the revs up over 2000rpm it just stalls out. What else can it be? Can those connectors maybe still be bad and have to replaced? Does the idle have to be moved up? If so how do I go about doing that? HEEEEELLLLLPPPP!!!


Jon316G 05-21-2011 05:39 PM

Did you reset the e-shaft profile?
Commonly overlooked after a motor swap.
1) Turn the key to 'ON' (do not start).
2) Pump the brake pedal rapidly until you see the oil pressure gauge sweep to the middle and back down.
3) Turn the key to 'OFF'
4) Start the car.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 05-21-2011 05:42 PM

If the dealer installed it, bring it back to them. Even if she has past 100k miles there should be something like a 12month/12kmile warranty on the engine they just put in.

If there is no warranty, start simple, check fuses and grounds make sure they are all ok.

Ricky SE3P 05-21-2011 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jon316G (Post 3983884)
Did you reset the e-shaft profile?
Commonly overlooked after a motor swap.
1) Turn the key to 'ON' (do not start).
2) Pump the brake pedal rapidly until you see the oil pressure gauge sweep to the middle and back down.
3) Turn the key to 'OFF'
4) Start the car.

i had her do this. these issues are still occuring with the stalling. plus what about the inability to communicate with the vehicle?

Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry (Post 3983886)
If the dealer installed it, bring it back to them. Even if she has past 100k miles there should be something like a 12month/12kmile warranty on the engine they just put in.

If there is no warranty, start simple, check fuses and grounds make sure they are all ok.

the dealer did not install, another shop did. ill let her know to check that if she cant get the car in my area so i can get my hands dirty.
could the possibility of a vaccum leak be the cause of rough idle/stalling? this would be so much easier if the obd-II port was working :icon_no2::rant: lol

Jon316G 05-21-2011 06:09 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Verify the ignition wires's coil-to-plug order is correct:
Attachment 172305

itsdidihi 05-21-2011 06:12 PM

thanks for the help guys. i'll look into this stuff asap. and thx for putting up the post ricky. :)

Ricky SE3P 05-21-2011 11:12 PM

Bump.
Anyone else have any ideas why nothing can communicate with the car?

StealthTL 05-22-2011 12:02 AM

3 fuses can upset the ECU - the 'room' fuse in the footwell, and the two 10 amp'ers underhood, marked 'engine'.

Try a hard reset, disconnect battery for ten minutes.

Check the vacuum nipple just behind and below the throttle body - if it's got it's hose connected, disconnect and cap it to check that the VFAD system isn't the cause of your stalls.

Jon316G 05-22-2011 08:51 AM

^+1
The ROOM fuse supplies the constant voltage to the OBD-II port and other devices such as the PCM.
So verifying all of fuses and air/vac connections would be a good start.

Ricky SE3P 05-22-2011 08:59 AM

Capping off that vacuum line for the vfad leaves it always open, correct? If so I might do that either way. Any other vacuum lines I should check? And how do I check them?

Jon316G 05-22-2011 09:09 AM

Yes, you can cap the VFAP nipple and the valve will stay open.
I would then remove the hose between the nipple and vacuum chamber so you don't have a loose line dangling.

Where the VFAD nipple is under the UIM, run your hand around the intake curve and you'll find another nipple (and hopefully another vac line attached) for another vacuum chamber.

Then behind the oil filler neck you'll see a line with a blue disconnect attached under the UIM, make sure that line is secured and then follow it to the other side (close to the brake booster) and ensure that is also connected (that end also has a blue disconnect).

This is the thing that sucks about someone else doing a motor swap... its had to tell what they did or didn't do.
Hell... they could have the fuel injectors connected wrong... so many possibilities.

Mazurfer 05-22-2011 09:09 AM

Man, just soooooooooooooo many fricken things it could be!
Which I wasn't 5 hours North, I could maybe help out some.
Anyway...................gotta get that OBD port working so at least you will have somewhere to start.

So is the only real issue(besides the OBD port), the fact that it just idles rough and stalls?
Has anybody gone back and verified that the air intake track is as it should be?
That both screens are in place, that the MAF was put in correctly?
Do you know if new coils, plugs, and wires were put in with the new engine?

Ricky SE3P 05-22-2011 10:36 AM

From my understanding new coils plugs and wires were not. Though I could be wrong I'll check with Diandra later on that. I'm far from mechanically impaired (studying to be a mechanical engineer) so tell me what to check and where it's at incase I do not know

Jon316G 05-22-2011 10:43 AM

Might as well download the service manual... you're gonna need it:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...service+manual

Ricky SE3P 05-22-2011 01:25 PM

thanks for that link. as soon as i can get my hands dirty ill use all the help from you guys to trouble shoot. if anything comes up, or if i check and note what i did check but the problem persists, ill post it here. thanks for everything so far everyone

itsdidihi 05-22-2011 08:08 PM

Thanks guys. Seems like we might have gotten it figured out. Not positive yet. I'm gonna wait till tomorrow when the car is cold to take it out for another drive and see if problems persist. But thanks for all your help. And especially you for coming over Ricky. I don't know what I would do without you guys and this forum. :)

Jon316G 05-22-2011 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by itsdidihi (Post 3984536)
Thanks guys. Seems like we might have gotten it figured out.

Not even a hint?

itsdidihi 05-22-2011 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Jon316G (Post 3984538)
Not even a hint?

Not sure yet and I don't want to be the girl that sounds stupid so I'll wait till tomorrow and let the suspense get to you. :)

monchie 05-22-2011 10:50 PM

I hate being teased...

Ricky SE3P 05-22-2011 11:18 PM

bro i didnt have the tools i needed to look further into the car (left them at home by mistake) and its real frustrating cause im here losing sleep cause i wanna work on that damn car!! -_____-

olddragger 05-23-2011 08:13 AM

if the car is running at all and you cant communicate with the computer through the ob2 port---check uour tool--you may need a different one.

Ricky SE3P 05-23-2011 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 3984813)
if the car is running at all and you cant communicate with the computer through the ob2 port---check uour tool--you may need a different one.

What tool? And today I'm hoping to check out the ecu and coil to spark plug and stuff.

Ricky SE3P 05-24-2011 01:12 PM

hey everyone, some good news and then possible bad news, not sure.

Managed to get the OBD-II port working, and were able to pull the engine codes to see whats wrong. The issue is the Neutral Switch. ill ask Diandra for the actual codes again but we were able to narrow it down to that switch as the culprit of the stalling, rough idle, and CEL. Stupid radiator light is on too but thats just the problematic sensor in the reserve tank up top. Ill keep everyone posted so you guys might be able to help us finish the problem

Novoken 05-24-2011 01:48 PM

why did you not take is to the shop you got it installed?

Ricky SE3P 05-24-2011 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Novoken (Post 3986085)
why did you not take is to the shop you got it installed?

its kinda hard for her to make time to do that. she goes to school and works full time. the shop is about 90 minutes away, and she would be stalling out the whole way there. every stop, sometimes when decelerating, etc.


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