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kamhus 12-21-2008 01:57 AM

help car in limp mode P1688
 
Hi there

Help needs

No Mazda dealers in Pakistan. Rolls yes/ Range Rover / BMW yes yes just not mazda ford and alfa romeo.

My 2004 auto is giving me trouble. 61k km oil change every 1500 km. Changed coils and plugs 4 k km ago. The car about two weeks ago just blew the Bose Amp. I tried to get it fixed but will probably have to get a new one. A couple of days later on starting the car it showed the CEL and went into limp mode. Got my diagnostics out and it shows P1688. Which is the oil metering pump circuit.

Then got the engine cover off and the battery and everything. A water/coolant pipe juts above the oil pump/metering pump had leaked and coolant got into the connector. Fixed it. The car had not overheated and the coolant loss was only a drip and minimal but certainly into the connector. Got the sensor out and the wire and had it cleaned and the connectors dried out. Removed the CEL but it came back again and car started in limp mode. Cleared KAM in desperation and same thing happened but for the fact that it started stalling at idle as well.

Restarted it a few score times and it once went out of limp mode.Drove it in limp mode 25 km to my home. Got fed up and parked it in the garage alongside with classics and used the FD for four days. Restarted the RX8 and it ran fine... no issues.. good performance. Switched it off ... same thing ... ran fine. Thought problem had gone away. Used it all evening...several starts. went to a friends... parked outside.. temp 12 celsius. Came back... limp mode again. CEL P1688

Is it the oil metering pump? Is it the sensor? Do I need to replace the wiring as well. I need the part numbers for the harness, Pump and sensor as well. Also the Bose amp.... thats where it all started. Could this be linked.Shall I just get a good electrician.


Help guys.

Brettus 12-21-2008 02:26 AM

Sounds loike you may still have an issue with the connector . I think there is a product you can spray on the connectors to help with this .

dannobre 12-21-2008 04:36 AM

There is a positioning switch in the "sensor" If it is crapped up inside it won;t work properly. I would try and clean it inside with contact cleaner..and then reset it.

You will likely have to remove the pump...and manually return it to the zero position by hand..and then reset the switch so that it reads zero...and then it should work

Did you remove the sensor to clean it out?..if you did and didn't reset the pump that is what started the problem...

PM me if you have any questions

kamhus 12-21-2008 09:37 AM

Zeroing the MOP pump
 

Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 2779907)
There is a positioning switch in the "sensor" If it is crapped up inside it won;t work properly. I would try and clean it inside with contact cleaner..and then reset it.

You will likely have to remove the pump...and manually return it to the zero position by hand..and then reset the switch so that it reads zero...and then it should work

Did you remove the sensor to clean it out?..if you did and didn't reset the pump that is what started the problem...

PM me if you have any questions

Thanks a lot. will try it... By the way... I am a doctor so kindly forgive the idiotic question... how does one reset the pump to zero .. any links would be appreciated.
Cheers... will keep you posted

dannobre 12-21-2008 09:46 AM

Are you doing the work yourself? If you are then the easiest way is to remove the pump from the car...and the switch ( black thing:) ) and turn the rotating piece clockwise to close it all the way..then carefully put the switch back on in the rotated position as well....then re-install the pump

What's wrong with being a doctor ;)

Mazurfer 12-21-2008 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 2779975)

What's wrong with being a doctor ;)

Unless of course he is a Proctologist!
Reminds me of Kramer having the "Ass man" license plate! :lol2:

kamhus 12-21-2008 11:38 AM

help MOP p1688 and profession
 

Originally Posted by Mazurfer (Post 2780004)
Unless of course he is a Proctologist!
Reminds me of Kramer having the "Ass man" license plate! :lol2:

:) He He... neurosurgeon actually... put that in as I am not an engineer and so would need guidance. I suppose mechanically electrically proficient guys would need less.

Brettus 12-21-2008 12:00 PM

/\ kind of like giving us "learn as you go" instructions on brain surgery ? lol

ShellDude 12-21-2008 12:32 PM

dude, you're not getting any where near my brain !!!

Brettus 12-21-2008 12:43 PM

/\ there is a first time for everything - even brain surgery . I dare say you would practice on less important people and work your way up ....

dannobre 12-21-2008 12:52 PM

I could think of a few :) But he's almost gone anyway ;)

kamhus 01-08-2009 09:25 AM

thanks guys... got it fixed... took down the pump as advised ...rezeroed it and the sensor and its been behaving for the last four days now....

stask1 02-03-2010 09:44 PM

Hey Kamhus,
Can you please let us know about your OMP/DTC1688 problem. What is the outcome? If this (or OMP related) problem appear again?
I also have similar problem (DTC1686) and now in the process of deciding the best approach to it...
If anyone can give me any advice - you're more then welcome!

ELI063 03-21-2012 02:51 PM

This thread helped me a lot

teemu83s 05-10-2015 02:02 AM

Hi,

I just swapped "new used engine"(4port euro 5speed manual).

Swap went great, started right away(new coils,plugs and plugwires etc.). new engine was just a block. So
i took omp from old engine. And now after couple seconds of starting i get CEL and P1688 code

I've tried to adjust OMP position sensor "couple" of times(just unbolt the sensor and turn). One time we got about 15mins of running before CEL.

Checked all the wiring followed by Service Manual P1688 DTC. No problems.

I put some premix on fuel to just to be safe before limp issue is fixed.

Couple questions:

- Could omp be on wrong position?(need to remove OMP from engine and turn/reset from back?)

- Switch/sensor is broken (measured about 60-80ohm on ends and there is a gap on the about middle of turning) what is the correct ohm value?

ltchad5 05-15-2015 09:55 AM

Can anyone help?
 
I had this code as well and tried to reset it with no luck so I bought a used one off ebay and installed it. The car ran great for about 30 miles with many stops and starts, now the code is back and I'm in limp mode again! I don't know why this is happening although I did replace an oil cooler line with a custom line to save money and i don't know if it's changed the pressure and burning out the pumps? Any thoughts I'm in desperate need of help at this point.

9krpmrx8 05-15-2015 10:03 AM

It has nothing to do with your oil lines.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...e3dbc6824a.jpg

ltchad5 05-15-2015 10:48 AM

I will take a look at the wiring and clean up the connectors and go from there I guess, do these pumps have to be adjusted when installed

9krpmrx8 05-15-2015 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by ltchad5 (Post 4690821)
I will take a look at the wiring and clean up the connectors and go from there I guess, do these pumps have to be adjusted when installed

The position switch on the pump may need to be adjusted.

ltchad5 05-15-2015 01:56 PM

Now when you adjust that sensor does that mean that the pump is in its last leg and will need to be replaced sometime in the future or can it be a more permanent fix?

juspe 07-10-2019 06:58 AM

P1688 - permanent deleting from ECU?
 
Hello guys!

I got P1688 (OMP problem) in 2004 RX-8.

can it be deleted and permanently erased whole thing with some software? To manipulate ECU so it doesnt matter.

I have checked OMP etc and I oil my car with 2-stroke to gastank.

So I just want to get the code away.

And... my car is also in limp mode, ofcourse.

Please help - software and advices needed.

juspe 07-10-2019 10:47 AM

What means rezeroing?
 

Originally Posted by kamhus (Post 2805139)
thanks guys... got it fixed... took down the pump as advised ...rezeroed it and the sensor and its been behaving for the last four days now....

What did you meant by saying rezeroed?
I have same problem. Got to take pump out and fix a little bit. 🤦*♂️

ltchad5 07-10-2019 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by juspe (Post 4893008)
Hello guys!

I got P1688 (OMP problem) in 2004 RX-8.

can it be deleted and permanently erased whole thing with some software? To manipulate ECU so it doesnt matter.

I have checked OMP etc and I oil my car with 2-stroke to gastank.

So I just want to get the code away.

And... my car is also in limp mode, ofcourse.

Please help - software and advices needed.

I had this problem on and off for about a year, I tried to zero it and it didn’t work out for me. What I’d suggest that worked for me is to go on eBay and get one used for $200. Replace it yourself as it’s only 3 bolts and one wire. I think it’s worth the risk buying a used one as they are $1500 new. One tip on drivability is that you may be able to disconnect the battery once or twice with it unplugged for 5-10 minutes and then turn it back on and that may get you by for a few days. Best of luck

juspe 07-11-2019 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by ltchad5 (Post 4893152)
I had this problem on and off for about a year, I tried to zero it and it didn’t work out for me. What I’d suggest that worked for me is to go on eBay and get one used for $200. Replace it yourself as it’s only 3 bolts and one wire. I think it’s worth the risk buying a used one as they are $1500 new. One tip on drivability is that you may be able to disconnect the battery once or twice with it unplugged for 5-10 minutes and then turn it back on and that may get you by for a few days. Best of luck

Thank you for the answer.

So there is only 3 bolts and few electricity wires, I saw pictrures on that and have done research a bit.

So you mean that there is one ”oil wire”/”oil hose” also?

ltchad5 07-11-2019 06:51 AM

I did it a few years ago so I just looked at the part again. Yes the oil lines are self explanatory, just take the bolts holding the lines out and swap parts right over. Label the lines with tape if you feel like you may get them confused putting them back on. The most pain in the ass part about it is the lack of space, it took me about 2 hours and a extra set of hands to do the swap. The mounting bolts are the only hard part. Switch over the lines after you remove it from the engine. The part is located on the passenger side towards the front of the engine. I think I removed some things topside to help me but did most of the work from underneath. Good luck. It was a fun car but my best times with it was when I bought it and then when I sold it bc it gave me so many problems! If you’re in the New England area or another area that’s treated with salt due to snow check out your oil cooler lines as they have issues where they rot out. Best of luck


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