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g0rdhan 11-24-2009 07:43 PM

Good Battery replacement for the Stock one?
 
I've recently bought my 8, and it now needs a new battery after a failed test and when i turn it on, it has a little trouble turning over.

are there any recommended batteries you guys would suggest? or just a simple replacement from Autozone??

thanks in advance!

@!!narotordo 11-24-2009 09:09 PM

Optima red top or yellow top :smoker:

CarAndDriver 11-24-2009 10:42 PM

SEARCH

Do a search on battery and lots of threads come up. Most people consider Optima overpriced now that Johnson Controls owns them and Johnson Controls makes a lot of batteries for other brands. Many 8 owners have been happy with their JC batts.

@!!narotordo 11-24-2009 10:50 PM

Dude walmart! my friend replaces his every year :lol: its true

CarAndDriver 11-24-2009 10:54 PM

^ Many of Walmart's Everstart batteries are made by Johnson Controls (noted on the battery itself). If you go with Walmart, hopefully the ones in OC have the stronger "N" model with 640CCA.

Replaced b/c they go bad?

EDZRIDE 11-25-2009 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by g0rdhan (Post 3328916)

are there any recommended batteries you guys would suggest? or just a simple replacement from Autozone??

Sears Platinum Diehard; made by Oddessy!

Nubo 11-25-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by EDZRIDE (Post 3329674)
Sears Platinum Diehard; made by Oddessy!

+1 The Diehard Platinum P-5, Group 35, fits perfectly, deep-cycle capable, good capacity, absolutely zero maintenance. It is expensive, but the warranty kicks ass.

CarAndDriver 11-25-2009 08:41 PM

The Diehard Plats are more than 2X the price of other batteries. Perhaps if you live a really really cold climate. Not worth it in California unless you want a very good and very expensive battery.

Easy_E1 11-25-2009 08:42 PM

Anything with a free 3 year replacement warranty.

TeamRX8 11-25-2009 09:55 PM

Costco, either the regular brand for lowest cost (~$55) or an Optima Red Top (~$115)

I just paid more for a tiny Odyssey racing battery for my RX-8 than the Red Top I put in my truck. :puke:



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volcomx31 11-25-2009 10:12 PM

duralast gold is pretty good

ken-x8 11-25-2009 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 3330160)
Anything with a free 3 year replacement warranty.

Ba da bing! And you can find such batteries at surprisingly low prices at places like Advance Auto, Autozone, etc.

Ken

@!!narotordo 11-26-2009 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by CarAndDriver (Post 3329095)
^ Many of Walmart's Everstart batteries are made by Johnson Controls (noted on the battery itself). If you go with Walmart, hopefully the ones in OC have the stronger "N" model with 640CCA.

Replaced b/c they go bad?

They go bad. Dont know what kind of cranking amps hes buying :dunno:

EDZRIDE 11-26-2009 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by CarAndDriver (Post 3330158)
The Diehard Plats are more than 2X the price of other batteries. Perhaps if you live a really really cold climate. Not worth it in California unless you want a very good and very expensive battery.

2X the price? Closer to $50.00 more if you're comparing better quality batteries. The ease in getting a warranty claim through is well worth the additional cost; not to mention all the places you can submit a claim!

CarAndDriver 12-01-2009 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by EDZRIDE (Post 3330651)
2X the price? Closer to $50.00 more if you're comparing better quality batteries. The ease in getting a warranty claim through is well worth the additional cost; not to mention all the places you can submit a claim!

On the Sears site, they list the Group 35 battery at $189.99. That seems pretty darn pricey to me. If you need the 740CCA, it'd be worth it.

I didn't realize that Costco had Optima Red Top available for $115. That's pretty good considering it's $149 direct from Optima.

invasion08 12-01-2009 07:58 PM

WOW 115 is cheap i paid 149 shipped for my optima red top. So far no problems with my battery and the stock battery has 630 CCA and the Red Top has 720CCA

Myardor 12-01-2009 08:57 PM

You guys are fools and u know what they say:
a fool and his money soon part
over 100 bux, ur a fool
go to wally world
buy the next up size
'I did...for 75 bux. 3 year full warranty
do not remember what size i bought, but do a search for my post
I did not get the recommended one, it was too low ic ccas
I got the 750 cca one
I think it was 24something
like I said, search for the post where i put the details
I think it was the maxx 24fs battery wally world
same width, same height, but a bit longer.
Still fits the battery box
the optima..u have to adjust for size and not worth the price IMHO

Nubo 12-02-2009 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Myardor (Post 3335985)
You guys are fools and u know what they say:
a fool and his money soon part
over 100 bux, ur a fool
...
do not remember what size i bought
...
I did not get the recommended one
...
I think it was 24something

Know what you're talking about before you call someone a fool. And even then....

For one thing, there is a reason why there is a recommended size, and it has to do with cooling airflow inside the battery box. Heat is an enemy of battieries, The rotary throws a lot of heat, and if you stuffed too large a battery in the box, your extra CCAs may not be there when you expect. There is a white mark on the battery box past which the battery should not extend. Simply fitting inside the box is not the measure of applicability.

Furthermore, CCA alone are not a very useful measure of capacity. More important are amp-hours and reserve capacity.

The Sears Die-Hard Platinum P-5 is a re-branded Odyssey battery. That means, in addition to the zero maintenance aspect, it has deep-cycle capacity. It will retain its capacity even if it gets run down occasionally by extended parking. Or, if the car is flooded it will give you a better chance at recovery, without damaging the battery (and risking a future flooding event).

How much does it cost to have the car towed?
How much will you spend replacing your battery, and how long will it last?
What is the real cost per mile over the long-term?

Not everyone has the same needs or wants. But there are many for whom the $189 battery is a good deal for what you get.

Huey52 12-02-2009 01:17 PM

+ a zillion, mostly because it's an Odyssey rebrand.

My new fav, over prior Redtop/YellowTop


Originally Posted by Nubo (Post 3329983)
+1 The Diehard Platinum P-5, Group 35, fits perfectly, deep-cycle capable, good capacity, absolutely zero maintenance. It is expensive, but the warranty kicks ass.


Bigbacon 12-02-2009 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by volcomx31 (Post 3330265)
duralast gold is pretty good

I have this also. I think I paid 89.99 at Autozone for mine. (with a turn in of the old battery)

g0rdhan 12-03-2009 03:42 AM

i paid for the autozone DLG ones... had a hard time getting it in because of some pretty bad corrosives! but got it taken care of and now its running perfect. i didnt think i'd need to spend >$100 for a battery :/

CarAndDriver 12-03-2009 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by g0rdhan (Post 3337640)
i paid for the autozone DLG ones... had a hard time getting it in because of some pretty bad corrosives! but got it taken care of and now its running perfect. i didnt think i'd need to spend >$100 for a battery :/

Your previous battery must have been in really bad shape. In SoCal, you're not going to need more than 640CCA to get going any time of the year.

CarAndDriver 01-06-2010 06:05 PM

Well time for me to replace my battery. It's going on about 4 years 3 months and I don't want to chance things esp. since there is a slight hesitation when starting cold.

I'm going to go with either the Costco Kirkland or Walmart Everstart Maxx (N) batteries. Identical warranties and specs. Both made by Johnson Controls.

Costco is $59.99 and Walmart is $75. Walmart includes free installation.

Is it hard to change the battery? I've only taken off the cover before. Also any experiences with either. I think people on here have had good experiences with both rebranded JC batts.

nycgps 01-06-2010 06:24 PM

4 screws to deal with.

Takes about 10 minutes the most.

Quality varies, even its made by the same company. You get what you paid for.

When you buy a battery, You might want to pay attention to its CCA and RC rating.

CarAndDriver 01-06-2010 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3378347)
4 screws to deal with.

Takes about 10 minutes the most.

Quality varies, even its made by the same company. You get what you paid for.

When you buy a battery, You might want to pay attention to its CCA and RC rating.

Thanks. All the JC batteries like Walmart Everstart Maxx, Costco Kirkland, Autozone Duralast Gold, Interstate Mega-Tron Plus have identical 640CCA and 800CC. To me that says same battery, different labels.

The only mainstream batteries with better specs are Diehard Platinum and Optima Red Top (JC-made).

Here are ratings from Nov. 09 Consumers Report battery test. Too bad it didn't include the numerical scores. My parents have mag but too far to go look. I read the article a month ago and it seemed all the batteries scored roughly the same. If I recall, all the batteries at the top provided good cranking but the Bosch had a better life than the others.

From my research online, the Bosch batteries are now made by Exide. My friend just put one of the Bosch Premium Powers in his GTI. I've read mixed opinions about Exides.

1. Bosch Premium Power 35-640B $90 - sold at Pep Boys
2. Duralast Gold 35-DLG $90 - AutoZone
3. EverStart Maxx-35N (North) $75 - Walmart ** Consumer Reports Recommended
4. DieHard Gold 33035 (North) $105 - Sears and K-Mart
5. Kirkland Signature 12865 $65 - Costco **Consumer Reports Best Buy
6. NAPA Legend Premium 8435 - NAPA
7. EverStart Maxx-35S (South) $75 - Walmart
8. Autocraft Titanium 35-2 $95 Advance Auto Parts
9. Interstate Mega-Tron Plus MTP-35 $100
10. Duralast 35-DL $80 - AutoZone
11. DieHard Gold 33135 (South) $105 - Sears and K-Mart

nycgps 01-06-2010 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by CarAndDriver (Post 3378375)
Thanks. All the JC batteries like Walmart Everstart Maxx, Costco Kirkland, Autozone Duralast Gold, Interstate Mega-Tron Plus have identical 640CCA and 800CC. To me that says same battery, different labels.

The only mainstream batteries with better specs are Diehard Platinum and Optima Red Top (JC-made).

Here are ratings from Nov. 09 Consumers Report battery test. Too bad it didn't include the numerical scores. My parents have mag but too far to go look. I read the article a month ago and it seemed all the batteries scored roughly the same. If I recall, all the batteries at the top provided good cranking but the Bosch had a better life than the others.

From my research online, the Bosch batteries are now made by Exide. My friend just put one of the Bosch Premium Powers in his GTI. I've read mixed opinions about Exides.

1. Bosch Premium Power 35-640B $90 - sold at Pep Boys
2. Duralast Gold 35-DLG $90 - AutoZone
3. EverStart Maxx-35N (North) $75 - Walmart ** Consumer Reports Recommended
4. DieHard Gold 33035 (North) $105 - Sears and K-Mart
5. Kirkland Signature 12865 $65 - Costco **Consumer Reports Best Buy
6. NAPA Legend Premium 8435 - NAPA
7. EverStart Maxx-35S (South) $75 - Walmart
8. Autocraft Titanium 35-2 $95 Advance Auto Parts
9. Interstate Mega-Tron Plus MTP-35 $100
10. Duralast 35-DL $80 - AutoZone
11. DieHard Gold 33135 (South) $105 - Sears and K-Mart

I know they rebrand battery, its probably from the same production line

if the warranty is the same, then sure get the cheapest.

but expensive battery has its value.

I have an Optima Yellow Top,been siting in my basement after my bro's car got totaled a year something ago. Its discharged down to like 7 V or something. but after 3 days of constant charging, its back to life with 12.9 V steady. cant say the same to regular Acid-base battery.

CarAndDriver 01-06-2010 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3378414)
I know they rebrand battery, its probably from the same production line

if the warranty is the same, then sure get the cheapest.

but expensive battery has its value.

I have an Optima Yellow Top,been siting in my basement after my bro's car got totaled a year something ago. Its discharged down to like 7 V or something. but after 3 days of constant charging, its back to life with 12.9 V steady. cant say the same to regular Acid-base battery.

I definitely agree that some of the more expensive batteries using gel and glass mat offer superior performance; however, living in an area that rarely seems temps below freezing even in the middle of winter, it's hard to justify the price difference and I don't have any aftermarket electronics sucking juice nor track/race my car.

nycgps 01-06-2010 09:59 PM

then I guess you're good :)

I somewhat agreed to the price thing, I mean it cost about 90 bux to get a Duralast Battery from Autozone, same 3 Yr Free-Replacement-No-Questions-Asked Warranty. if the battery is dead 3 years later, I still can use it as "prorate" to a new battery.

But I dont know, Optima Failed once on me but it was my fault, left the trunk opened for 2 weeks, Battery was deeply drain down to 2.0 V ... well, free replacement. :) Im happy for now.

maxxdamigz 01-06-2010 10:06 PM

Not gonna lie, if you put 2 identical batteries side by side and the plastic shell on one looked cooler and cost $20 more, I'd buy it. I've never had a battery fail on me (not that they don't), but I have blown up all sorts of other things. Once a battery passes a certain level of reliability, the last 2% of reliability just doesn't matter to me. I wish Optima made a bronze top. I'd buy that.

Huey52 01-07-2010 06:31 AM

I think I'm slowly but surely coming over to the side of just getting a reasonably priced battery with a 3-year warranty. I too don't really need the huge cold cranking amps since my '8 hybernates all winter on a Battery Tender. I also don't have any aftermarket audio, so no need for deep cycle. I may just go with another Interstate, which is still serving me very well since OEM. Heck, my daughter's 2003 Mazda6 still has its OEM battery, lives outside, and does run all winter.

AJ's Shinka 01-07-2010 11:45 AM

Good post NYCGPS, I recommend...
3. EverStart Maxx-35N (North) $75 - Walmart ** Consumer Reports Recommended

It's cheap and it has a 3 year warranty. I used it on my old 8 and it worked just fine, never had a problem starting up.

I used it on my Prelude as well and it's still in there now, no problems at all. I guess there's a reason CR recommends it.

maxxdamigz 01-07-2010 11:51 AM

I pulled the stock battery out of my '96 ford probe last year. Turns out, that didn't fix it, but I guess it was due for a change.

TeamRX8 01-09-2010 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by maxxdamigz (Post 3378550)
Not gonna lie, if you put 2 identical batteries side by side and the plastic shell on one looked cooler and cost $20 more, I'd buy it. I've never had a battery fail on me (not that they don't), but I have blown up all sorts of other things. Once a battery passes a certain level of reliability, the last 2% of reliability just doesn't matter to me. I wish Optima made a bronze top. I'd buy that.

:lol:


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