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AE92 03-31-2009 10:31 PM

Diff Fluid=75w90NS or regular 75w90
 
im about to perform my 30k mile service. which includes tranny and diff fluid change. trans im using Redline MTL and for the diff ( '04 GT= LSD correct?) i wanted to use Redline also, but i saw NS and regular. which one is for use in the stock LSD diff?

Jon316G 03-31-2009 10:35 PM

I use Redline 75w90 in my diff.

Charles R. Hill 03-31-2009 10:46 PM

Since the factory diff is a vicous coupled type, there is no need for the limited-slip friction modifiers. Like Jon said, standard 75W90 is fine.

rx8cited 03-31-2009 10:50 PM

DIY thread. I used Red Line 75W90 in the diff 2. And yes to ( '04 GT= LSD correct?)

AE92 03-31-2009 10:59 PM

keh thanks guys for evryones help. looks like im gettin the standard 75w90.

Charles R. Hill 03-31-2009 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by rx8cited (Post 2945045)
And yes to ( '04 GT= LSD correct?)

Yes, it is an LSD but it uses heat-sensitive fluid instead of clutches for the engagement.

rx8cited 03-31-2009 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2945066)
Yes, it is an LSD but it uses heat-sensitive fluid instead of clutches for the engagement.

Heat-sensitive fluid - I did not know that. What's the advantage of this design vs using clutches? How often would you recommend changing the diff fluid?

nycgps 04-01-2009 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by AE92 (Post 2945008)
im about to perform my 30k mile service. which includes tranny and diff fluid change. trans im using Redline MTL and for the diff ( '04 GT= LSD correct?) i wanted to use Redline also, but i saw NS and regular. which one is for use in the stock LSD diff?

Unless you want to rebuild/buy a new transmission, stop using MTL, its too light, and oh yes it will mess it up. Use MT-90 for Tranny. or Any Tranny Fluid meets GL-4 spec thats 75w90 weight.

For Rear diff, use 75w90. Or anything that meets GL-5 at the same weight or something higher like 75w140.

the NS one is NOT for use in LSD, NS means it does NOT contain the fiction modifiers required for Limited-Slip Differential to function.

AE92 04-01-2009 02:49 AM

whoops i actually have MT90 not MTL haha i read all about that MTL stuff before i switched it when i first bouhgt it last Oct. my bad. but im staying with MT90 hahaha.

Brettus 04-01-2009 03:39 AM

NS works well in the gear box - true story ...

AE92 04-01-2009 01:38 PM

so then i have to ask whats the difference in the MT90 and 75w90-NS, in thE gear box?

Icemark 04-01-2009 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2945066)
Yes, it is an LSD but it uses heat-sensitive fluid instead of clutches for the engagement.

Think you are mixing up cars... the factory LSD is a Torsen type on the RX-8. I have pulled a couple apart now (the differential fits perfect in the 87-91 Turbo RX-7 differential case) and they all have been Torsen types, not Viscous LSDs.

The Nissan's use a viscous, but Mazda hasn't for 10+ years.

Charles R. Hill 04-01-2009 02:24 PM

Yes, you are correct! I did get things confused but even the Torsen is a clutchless design, isn't it? My point is the same but for the wrong reason.:lol2:

nycgps 04-01-2009 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2945300)
NS works well in the gear box - true story ...

It does work.

NS is just a GL-5 fluid without the stuff for LSD, which is good for Synchos in the gear box.

Charles R. Hill 04-01-2009 02:48 PM

If you guys saw the various fluids I have run in my trans and diff you would think I was an idiot. Well, you may already think that, but.............:uhh:

Anyway, all the fluids we have been told NOT to use I have used without incident.:dunno:

Icemark 04-01-2009 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2946186)
Yes, you are correct! I did get things confused but even the Torsen is a clutchless design, isn't it? My point is the same but for the wrong reason.:lol2:

Yes, you are correct in that the Torsen (like the Viscous) is a clutchless design and regular GL-5 gear oil can be used (although I don't know if I would use a GL-4 like MT-90 in any Torsen type diff, just because of the higher percentage of gear/tooth contact).

Brettus 04-01-2009 02:55 PM

/\ i'm a bit the same (except for the idiot part ;) )
I've run stock , MT90, LWshockproof and now NS in the g/box . The best so far has been the NS :dunno:

delhi 04-01-2009 06:56 PM

Castrol sells the Hypoy-C 80w90.... also compatible with rear LSD per manual.

Aseras 04-01-2009 07:55 PM

not as bad as a friend who put 2 quarts of atf in a old datsun during a oil change. when we changed the oil it was freaking weird looking. car ran fine though. he was a pack rat and still had the bottles in the box. finally put it together after looking.

TeamRX8 04-01-2009 08:02 PM

NS = no slip modifiers

the only reason to run NS in a diff is if it's a clutch type and you're trying to induce more lockup, so there's no advantage/reason to use it in the RX-8 OE differential

slip modifiers can cause synchro engagement issues though, so running NS in the trans is a good idea, my preference is still Redline 75W-140NS

I have Kaaz 80W90 oil in the diff because I had it around at the time, not cheap ...

DOMINION 04-02-2009 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Jon316G (Post 2945017)
I use Redline 75w90 in my diff.

Cool thanks for the info Jon!

HWK11 04-02-2009 06:57 PM

you guys are confusing me... so using NS is okay?

Spinning Sushi 04-02-2009 06:58 PM

Don't use NS, it doesn't have the modifiers needed for your car.

Brettus 04-02-2009 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by HWK11 (Post 2948932)
you guys are confusing me... so using NS is okay?

not OK for diff - but OK for gearbox ...

AE92 04-02-2009 07:00 PM

75w90 NS =Tranny
regular 75w90 = Diff


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