thank you.

would be nice to see the whole page.

beers :beer:

the last part of the page is blank to the bottom then the page number.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...hotforoil2.jpg there you go

thank you.

so you dont think the use of 5 w 20 had anything to do with emmissions testing.. or cat life?? just gas mileage????

beers :beer:

in the states I think it had alot to do with all of the above, but joe shmoe would notice the fuel economy before he would notice excessive hydrocarbons and nox in his exhaust. I'll email the great Mazda Gurus through our online sercice support system about this oil issue and see if they respond. If I get a respoce I'll post it what ever the respoce may be.

cool i will be talking with my master tech on fri.. and looking at that page :)

as to gas milage their was not a change when i went from 5w20 dino to 5w30 syn.. still average the same 21mpg.

btw, my new motor got ordered today.... yea :rock:

beers :beer:

new motor? did it fail the the road test portion of the 4206f campaign?

did not have to do the road test or vacum test.. i got to skip to the right side of the flow chart!!!!

pm me if you want the details. :)

beers :beer:

People who complained about powerloss issue will be *their top priority*

like me, hehee ....

recall letter isnt in yet. But ahh, I think my engine can pass the test. (Im going to buy another brand new renesis just in case anyway, maybe anoither 2 years from now)

They use 5w20 because Ford said so.

Since Ford makes Pathetic cars and thats one of their old tricks to get better emissions.

Here you guys go. It's synthetic oil from Mazdaspeed! It's only around $100 per quart. It's got their name in it so it must be "special". It's actually just Idemitsu that is sold under the Mazdaspeed name. Of course you could just buy it from Rotary Performance for $7.50 per quart but it doesn't say Mazda on it so it must not be as good.

Ok, I am a little lost on the whole synthetic/nonsynthetic debate. I am not a mechanic, nor do I claim to be a smart man, but I fail to see the advantages of synthetic in the rotary. The rotory is so different from a piston engine. I just do not understand how it would help in any way in a rotary.

Lower temp sounds good ?

Why would you see advantages in a piston engine but not in a rotary?

Because rotary engines dont need superior lubrication, anti-sheer and cooling characteristics :dunno: :uhh:

LOL !

This is the funniest thread I've ever seen

rotary engine does not need superior lubrication, anti-sheer and cooling ..... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :tank: :bsmeter:

Yep, in fact they just dont need oil at all https://www.rx8club.com.au/forum/vie...?p=18596#18596

LOL !!!!

Yep, its just that the engine will fail (if no premix added)

LOL! Premix..this ...person... can't take note of an oil level warning light! How they gonna figure premix ??

PS - Royal Purple Syncromax is awesome

did you get an answer,

i did... if you are emailing the great mazda gurus... you are behind the curve here...

good luck..

beers :beer:

I know :P I read the thread before I post.

yea .... people like that shouldnt even own a car .... who cant even read a god damn manual ....

In Japan, there are a number of Japanese Pro-Shops/Tuners that sell Synthetic Oil for RX-8s. Its also sold in stores like Autobacs, in Japan.

R-Magic, Speed Master, Re-Amemiya, etc.... to name some (in Japan) and they all have synthetic oil for the RX-8.

These oils are SYNTHETIC and these guys race RX-8s. People can do what they wish, but I think the synthetic oil is better . It was made to be that way. If there is a problem, I think its the result of additive packages, by a few synthetic brands. Mobil 1 got a bad rap, but who knows at this point, since they have upgraded their product.

I think Mazda, simply does not wish to test ALL the different synthetic oils out there and also rather you have a limited choice or get your oil from them.

From Anti-Synthetic babies :

"Synthetics are BAD ! Because Mazda does not recommend them I've had no experience with Synthetic but they must be BAD BAD BAD. Yeah I have Aftermarket Intake/Midpipe/Exhaust/gauges/whatever installed, theres no way it would cause problems because I said so. Mazda does not recommend aftermarket parts? so what? who gives a fuxk about them ? but Synthetic oil is bad."

engine flush? after switching to syn oil
 

i just got my 8 and it had about 22,000 miles on it. At 24,500 i did an oil change with 5w20 oil and oil fliter. A friend recommended i do an engine flush because the previous owner had used oil. He recommended redline engine flush. Is this recommended, will it damage the rotary engine?