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gmcmillan 05-08-2008 06:14 PM

clogged cat
 
just wondering if there is anyway to unclog the oem cat if it gets clogged?

can i just hammer out the insides? i know this would not pass emissions but it's a temporary fix until i get my midpipe.

thanks for the help in advance

alnielsen 05-08-2008 06:19 PM

No, it will have to be replaced if you need to pass an emissions test.
There was some stuff being sold in the U.K. that was suppose to clean them out. But, it is generally known that the stuff doesn't work.

kennyfrc1 05-08-2008 06:25 PM

Bg44k

gmcmillan 05-08-2008 08:58 PM

bg44k cleans out a clogged cat?

swoope 05-09-2008 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by kennyfrc1 (Post 2452431)
Bg44k

wtf????

beers :beer:

swoope 05-09-2008 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by gmcmillan (Post 2452675)
bg44k cleans out a clogged cat?

no it does not, and cant do it...

great product!! but i dont know wft kenny is talking about.

beers :beer:

ZGlide 05-09-2008 04:08 AM

How can I tell if my cat is clogged? Some on the forum say you can visually see the internals melted away. Any other signs besides that? Will a clogged cat give off a CEL? I've been experiencing bad idle, hesitations, and unresponsiveness. I got the flash already, and changed out all plugs. Could this be a bad cat?

nycgps 05-09-2008 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by ZGlide (Post 2453260)
How can I tell if my cat is clogged? Some on the forum say you can visually see the internals melted away. Any other signs besides that? Will a clogged cat give off a CEL? I've been experiencing bad idle, hesitations, and unresponsiveness. I got the flash already, and changed out all plugs. Could this be a bad cat?

It might give you a CEL, but *sometimes* it might not throw anything at all. The only way to tell is either visually *look* at it, or test it.

prospectjtaz 05-09-2008 09:30 AM

how do you test it?

alnielsen 05-09-2008 09:34 AM

I've had 4 cats replaced, on my car, in almost 4 yrs. They all plugged up. None burnt out. I would first get flashing CEL's and solid CEL's for a misfire. Soon, the car wouldn't be able to rev over 7K.

gmcmillan 05-09-2008 05:24 PM

is there anyway to unclog the oem cat? (illegal or not)

spoddyandthemazda 05-09-2008 05:26 PM

hi gc

the cat on my car developed a fault and had to be replaced.
i had just got her through the MOT test we have in the uk, and i have a cat back exhaust which has the familar crackle etc.

i had noticed after the test that the exhaust wasn't its usual sporty crackly self.

a few days later the CEL light came on and stayed on, driving home from work, but the car lost no power and revved like usual.

when mazda hooked the car up to the computer they got a CAT failure code, it cost about £1200 to put a new CAT in.

My dealership paid for the part, me the labour as a good will payment cause i just had the car a few weeks, was peeved but better than £1200 me paying £210.

But the things I noticed were the difference in the exhaust note.
When I got the car back, it was alot quicker, I now use low sulphur shell petrol (gas) or the BP ultimate to help keep the engine clean and the emissions down so not to clog it again.

this happened at 62k odd miles, and someone on here thought my car was running too rich, but the full tank of petrol returned around 280 to 300 miles driving sensible.

i now red line at least once a day and use good quality petrol, the car is driving great better on higher octane petrol, so hopefully this will keep the cat in good shape.

they do glow red as very high temperatures etc, i did use a product on my other mazda mx3, jap import called CATACLEAN sold in England.

it was being advertised on TV to clean clogged CATS, they interviewed UK MOT garages who had failed people due to emissions, they would pour the CATACLEAN into the fuel tank, drive the car around for a bit return to the MOT garage and it had clean out the CAT and the car passed the emissions test.

it all sounded quite honest and the TV guy tested it and his car got better MPG and more perkiness etc.

i did notice a difference in the car after about 40-50 miles, like it got a bit of a boost, whether it did clean the CAT i can not say for sure as it always passes the MOT.

i have also read that these cleaners can damage sensors etc in the exhaust and they are not recommended by the manufacturer, plus nothing would withstand the high temperatures of combustion to go out in the exhaust and through the CAT.

so its hard to really say, you could try it and see, but you may end up like me an just bite the bullet and get a new CAT.

but i understand how you feel.

gmcmillan 05-09-2008 06:14 PM

what if yuo fed a long rod down the cat and smashed the interiors of it all to hell? would that fix the probleM? :)

snipaz2420 05-09-2008 06:44 PM

yes that would unclog it. since you will be taking the cat material out that makes it into a resonated midpipe so you wont even have to buy a midpipe. just be careful not to smash the o2 sensor

heyarnold69 05-09-2008 06:45 PM

there is a chemical out there that cleans cats ... but i dont know how well.

most times you just need to clean the sensor and not the cat. a little brake

cleaner onthe sensor and a torch cleans em nicely.

i clean my cat using the revline method. try it, it makes me smile :)

Socket7 05-09-2008 06:49 PM

A long steel rod and a several hours of work should unclog the cat for you. If you don't care about legality.

awbrigham 02-17-2015 08:33 AM

this is a clogged cat and its toast
 
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Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 2453411)
It might give you a CEL, but *sometimes* it might not throw anything at all. The only way to tell is either visually *look* at it, or test it.

Took this off yesterday took bout an hour with a lot of distractions getting pulled away to clear it with a pry bar hammer and a metal rod also put some 2x4 on the floor so i didnt mess that up heres a b4 and after shot oh yea dont for get brute strength beast mode when intel fails brute force is authorized.

G_ man 02-17-2015 08:47 AM

7 year thread bump but you got it,now you just have to deal with the check light

awbrigham 02-18-2015 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by G_ man (Post 4665059)
7 year thread bump but you got it,now you just have to deal with the check light

Yes it is and we shall see about the light soon enough

BigCajun 02-18-2015 10:24 AM

Kudos on not starting a new thread of a common problem.
If you have an Android phone, you can get the Torque app & a Bluetooth dongle to read the OBD codes & clear the CEL that will surely pop up.
That's what I use.

awbrigham 02-19-2015 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by BigCajun (Post 4665396)
Kudos on not starting a new thread of a common problem.
If you have an Android phone, you can get the Torque app & a Bluetooth dongle to read the OBD codes & clear the CEL that will surely pop up.
That's what I use.

Yes been using that setup for a while ive actually found this post about 4 times before i posted anything but im curious about my ignition as well but thats an issue for another warmer day with the tester and weather i can actually drive it in

BigCajun 02-19-2015 09:05 AM

Well, if you have more than 30k or don't know how many miles are on your coils, plugs, & wires, you might want to plan on changing them anyway.
They are the usual suspects for bad cats.

awbrigham 02-19-2015 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by BigCajun (Post 4665652)
Well, if you have more than 30k or don't know how many miles are on your coils, plugs, & wires, you might want to plan on changing them anyway.
They are the usual suspects for bad cats.

Yea was planning on bhr anyways but more or less waiting to get the warner weather is been around -30 around here lately i took the cat off outside it was -18 thankful my car has 0 rust on it

jonspurs 04-14-2016 04:51 PM

Hi,
I've noticed that my idle isn't as smooth as it could be.
Also there is a surge/turbo feeling around 7-8krpms - but would a failing CAT do the oppsosite and reduce power at higher revs?

Here's a 41megapixel picture...seems the heatshield is breaking...taking it to a ramp soon...I can also visibly see the heat shimmer/air warp around it...is this normal or excessive?

Cheers,
Jon

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ZiG 04-14-2016 09:24 PM

That's pretty subjective. No idea.

I can say that cataclean will work for a few thousand miles (or at least it will get rid of the CEL on a partially failed cat) but it's not a permanent solution. On my other car I ended up putting the o2 sensor on a spacer to keep the CEL off.

On the 8 I did a visual check of the cat from the engine side and it looked clear at 50k miles. OBDII says it's running between 700-900 celsius depending on what I'm doing.


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