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robel82 06-11-2007 12:18 PM

bad brakes at 13k miles?
 
I picked up my 05 8 on the 26th and 2 days after that my rear brakes started squealing. Is this normal for 8's to go thru this? It might have been the previous owners fault for maybe braking hard but still after 13k miles? I have a frontier too and never down shifted while braking. And most of the time it was under load, but I didnt have to replace the brakes until I reached 60k miles. I was just wondering if anyone else went thru this before. If there is another thread like this I apologize but i dont have time to search. Im at work.

Thanks
Rob

nycgps 06-11-2007 12:31 PM

Sports car + High performance Brake pad = Short Pad life

This is your problem.

what do you mean by you dont have time to search you lazy ass, you have the time to typed all that and u dont have the time to search.

kors-jan 06-11-2007 12:51 PM

There is a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) regarding the OEM brakes. Here's a link to Rosenthal Arlington Mazda website about the squeal:

http://www.mstore2000.com/PDF_Files/04-001-06-1568.pdf

My front brakes squealed LOUD at 14,000 miles. I took the TSB to my local Mazda dealer and they replaced the pads and hardware at no cost to me. No more squeal, and it's been almost a 1000 miles since then.

Oh, they may say something like the TSB is only good for cars with less than 12K miles. But if you respond nicely that the pads on a $30,000 car should last longer (like I did), they probably will do the fix -- especially if you stand there with a copy of the TSB in your hands.

When these are worn and need to be replaced (and I have to pay for it), I probably will install the the Hawk ceramic pads. But for now, this free fix using the TSB warranty was great.

robel82 06-11-2007 04:17 PM

Thanks kors-jan. I'll try that.

sleddog_racer 06-11-2007 04:23 PM

Might help to have the TSB in hand......I had the same brake issue with my '04 @ 14k, walked into the dealership with a copy of the TSB and they fixed 'er right up and apologized for the inconvenience.

3dartist81 06-11-2007 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by robel82 (Post 1920972)
Thanks kors-jan. I'll try that.

hell, i got the same issue... i'm going in to the dealer tomorrow with this pdf document!

Nubo 06-12-2007 12:34 PM

This does not necessarily have anything to do with the pads being "worn out". All brakes squeal -- the engineering trick is to get them to squeal at inaudible frequencies. The TSB has worked for some, but not all owners.

The problem is quite possibly NOT that the previous owner was too hard on the brakes, but rather not hard enough. Search for procedures on "bedding in" the brake pads.

r0tor 06-12-2007 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Nubo (Post 1922424)
This does not necessarily have anything to do with the pads being "worn out". All brakes squeal -- the engineering trick is to get them to squeal at inaudible frequencies. The TSB has worked for some, but not all owners.

The problem is quite possibly NOT that the previous owner was too hard on the brakes, but rather not hard enough. Search for procedures on "bedding in" the brake pads.

exactly...

and theres a fine line with performance car brakes. You use them too hard and they glaze and squeal, you use them too softly and they polish up and squeal.

Best bet is to bed them in..

mac11 06-12-2007 01:54 PM

Or understand that Mazda used an aggressive pad compound on your car to give you great braking performance in a $30,000 street car and just live with the small amount of noise. The pads that are used to replace the "noisy" ones are not as aggressive hence to not squeal but also do not stop as well.

j9fd3s 06-13-2007 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by kors-jan (Post 1920621)
There is a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) regarding the OEM brakes. Here's a link to Rosenthal Arlington Mazda website about the squeal:

http://www.mstore2000.com/PDF_Files/04-001-06-1568.pdf

My front brakes squealed LOUD at 14,000 miles. I took the TSB to my local Mazda dealer and they replaced the pads and hardware at no cost to me. No more squeal, and it's been almost a 1000 miles since then.

Oh, they may say something like the TSB is only good for cars with less than 12K miles. But if you respond nicely that the pads on a $30,000 car should last longer (like I did), they probably will do the fix -- especially if you stand there with a copy of the TSB in your hands.

When these are worn and need to be replaced (and I have to pay for it), I probably will install the the Hawk ceramic pads. But for now, this free fix using the TSB warranty was great.

yep 10kish miles on the new set here, not a peep.


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