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mdw1000 05-13-2008 01:37 AM

Red Line vs Royal Purple ATF, etc
 
Just wondering if anyone has any more up to date info, longer term impressions, etc on using the synthetic fluids in the tranny. Anyone happen to do a before and after dyno?

I read where 09Factor said he was getting better shifting with the RP. Any other thoughts?

Atilla 05-13-2008 08:01 PM

*bump for reviews*

I'm on the fence on this one as well - i have 10 quarts of royal purple max atf sitting in my garage right now waiting to be put in - i'm just doing some more research on it to find some users reviews...

bxb40 05-15-2008 06:17 PM

I've been using the RedLine High Temp ATF for the last 2 years without issues. A bit more rough shifting (when the car is pushed hard) but this is why I wanted the extra viscosity. And the High Temp rating means to protect when car overheats (as 4AT does). Low speed bobbing when engine is cold much reduced versus the OEM ATF also.

R888 05-15-2008 06:35 PM

AMS Oil ATF was good, the shift was smoother when the car runs after 30 mins.

Overall I can feel the difference b/w the OEM and the AMS oil.

I do wait for some Royal purple review at this point.

mdw1000 05-15-2008 09:31 PM

I think 09Factor uses RP ATF. Hopefully he will see this thread and chime in here.

imput1234 05-15-2008 09:37 PM

Redline rocks, I've heard bad thinks about Royal Purple.

sosonic 05-16-2008 02:24 AM

I vote for Red Line High Temp ATF. Used it for nearly 2 years and no issues.

Easy_E1 05-16-2008 07:47 AM

I haven't used either one in my 8. But I have used Redline in other cars. I 'll have to vote for Redline.
I think on my next trans fluid change I'll install Redline.

foo77 05-16-2008 08:36 AM

vote for Royal Purple :) used it nearly 2 years with no issuesa at all :icon_tup:
ps:imput1234 any link to what you heard? never heard bad thinks about RP..

mdw1000 05-16-2008 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by imput1234 (Post 2465265)
Redline rocks, I've heard bad thinks about Royal Purple.

What sort of things have you heard about RP? I thought they were supposed to be pretty good...

09Factor 05-21-2008 05:14 PM

When I used RP for the AT, it smoothed the shifting. Also shifting at higher RPM's were more positive, quicker, and smoother.

i haven't used it since I became FI'd. Thats a diffrent story Easy knows about.

imput1234 05-21-2008 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by mdw1000 (Post 2466249)
What sort of things have you heard about RP? I thought they were supposed to be pretty good...

Some people bitching about RP products in this recent thread: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/gear-oil-prefernce-poll-145984/

there are others, but havent searched lol

mdw1000 05-21-2008 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by 09Factor (Post 2474381)
When I used RP for the AT, it smoothed the shifting. Also shifting at higher RPM's were more positive, quicker, and smoother.

i haven't used it since I became FI'd. Thats a diffrent story Easy knows about.

You can't just leave a tease like that hanging :) - so what happened, and what are you using now?

TeamRX8 05-21-2008 06:11 PM

IMO Amsoil makes the best synthetic ATF fluid

http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/atf.aspx

09Factor 05-22-2008 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by mdw1000 (Post 2474461)
You can't just leave a tease like that hanging :) - so what happened, and what are you using now?

A softball size rock took out my transverse member, oil pan, and tranny pan.
Also the cat and middle pipe. It was the rock, a ditch, or a Duley 350HD Ford truck.

I picked the rock. This happened Aug, of '06.

Phil's 8 05-22-2008 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by 09Factor (Post 2475379)
A softball size rock took out my transverse member, oil pan, and tranny pan.
Also the cat and middle pipe. It was the rock, a ditch, or a Duley 350HD Ford truck.

I picked the rock. This happened Aug, of '06.

How are you???

Phil's 8 05-22-2008 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2474166)
I am about to outfit Phil with some Eneos ATF. We'll see how it goes...........


Originally Posted by 09Factor (Post 2474381)
When I used RP for the AT, it smoothed the shifting. Also shifting at higher RPM's were more positive, quicker, and smoother.

i haven't used it since I became FI'd. Thats a diffrent story Easy knows about.

This new AT fluid needs to be some great stuff to be better than RP. I started using RP just before I FI'd and it has been great stuff. Stock ATF burned up in about 3-5 grand. I've 15000 on the last RP ATF change and it still smells and feels fresh.

Easy_E1 05-22-2008 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Phil's 8 (Post 2475916)
How are you???

That question could be debated for a long time.
Dave hit a rock the size of a watermelon and took out everything under the car that held fluid. And a little more.
So you like the RP ATF Phil.? I'm going with Redline in the next month or so. Unless Ray wants to make me a guinea pig for his ENOS too.

lilring 05-22-2008 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by mdw1000 (Post 2474461)
You can't just leave a tease like that hanging :) - so what happened, and what are you using now?

hey, when are you going to do the trans fluid change? let me know when you are going to do it.. its been something i need to do but i dont really know how. in other words when you do yours, if you can helo me with mine. and let me know what you end up using for fluid.

thanks nick

Silver_Surfer 05-22-2008 10:50 PM

Redline here! I have been running with the regular Redline ATF but will top off the trans with the hi-temp stuff when I add my trans cooler.

Spinning Sushi 05-22-2008 10:57 PM

From what I've been reading...
RP in the MT's are bad since they lack modifiers.
RP ATF is good in the AT's.
That's just my findings.

mdw1000 05-22-2008 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by lilring (Post 2476567)
hey, when are you going to do the trans fluid change? let me know when you are going to do it.. its been something i need to do but i dont really know how. in other words when you do yours, if you can helo me with mine. and let me know what you end up using for fluid.

thanks nick

Haven't done it myself either. I'll probably take it to my dealer and have them use their machine to make sure most of the old stuff is out.

I may do it soon, or I may wait until I hit 30K (I'm at 20K now). Haven't decided yet. I'm not really having any problems (knock on wood), but I'm researching to see if switching to the synthetic will really give me any big advantage over OEM.

mdw1000 05-22-2008 11:57 PM

FYI - my dealer tech (who doesn't really seem like the "gouge the customer" type) does recommend changing it every 30K to be on the safe side.

Phil's 8 05-23-2008 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by mdw1000 (Post 2476658)
FYI - my dealer tech (who doesn't really seem like the "gouge the customer" type) does recommend changing it every 30K to be on the safe side.

I believe that is Mazda recommended time also. In the desert it's a real good idea to check your fluid at least weekly during the hot summer to make sure you do not "burn" the fluid. With Rays A/T radiator I am not as worried but it is still a good idea to check it.


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2475919)
He was fine in 9/07 when we swapped in his BHR A/T rad!:)

If you do that much damage to a vehicle it stands to reason that there could have been personal injury and in my usual incoherent fashion, I was trying to find if he was injured.


Originally Posted by 09Factor (Post 2475379)
A softball size rock took out my transverse member, oil pan, and tranny pan.
Also the cat and middle pipe. It was the rock, a ditch, or a Duley 350HD Ford truck.

I picked the rock. This happened Aug, of '06.

I assume that you escaped injury? Did you save the turbo:). Is there anyway we can blame this on Ray?

Easy: Well I did try Redline once and was not impressed. I felt no change in the tranny and it only lasted as long as regular AT fluid. When I first went to RP I felt a real change in the A/T as it shifted smoother and seemed to run cooler. I am due for a fluid change but not because it's been over heated. Now comes the question will this be a fair test of the new fluid cuz I have the BHR A/T radiator? It should be as I have no respect for conventional thought on the use and rev limits of the A/T.

09Factor 05-23-2008 09:56 AM

Thanks for asking. I'm ok,just not right. The car is fine, and the tubo wasn't even bought yet. When the dealer replaced the oil pan, it always leaked. Well that was fixed last week.

I was doing some reading on AMSOil, RP and Redline...

I ahve read in diffrent forums that the Redline either seems to breakdown faster or the user dosen't sense a diffrence. I also don't believe everything I read.

Since I know what RP feels like in a NA car, I want to try the AMSOil next.


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