F.I. 4 port ????
I need some help here, and I am sick of hearing people say sell the A/T and purchase the manual. What information do you guys have on the Esmeril turbo kit vs. the Pettit Racing S/C? My main concerns are as follows
1. How much of an increase can the stock torque converter/ transmission handle? 2. Does anyone have any true dyno results of either on the 4 port? 3. do you guys think it is worth it? I am still trying to decide if it is worth my time to invest into this project . |
I went ahead and deleted my posting as I was not as nice as you are. O9 Factor, Easy E1 and I have posted in several spots about this. I would have been happier if he would have just searched a little or shown that he has and asked a direct question. Oh well it's Monday morning
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I like theads like this.
I have my dyno posted in this thread post #2. https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...42&postcount=2 Mine stops @ 55xx because the fuel pump couldn't keep up, (ie, bad pump). Is FI worth it? just like Ray said, what are you expectations? Is it a daily driver that passes Id10t's with ease or a track car that hold it's own against STI's and EVO's?
Originally Posted by Phil's 8
(Post 3294916)
I went ahead and deleted my posting as I was not as nice as you are. O9 Factor, Easy E1 and I have posted in several spots about this. I would have been happier if he would have just searched a little or shown that he has and asked a direct question. Oh well it's Monday morning
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I read a really good FI AT thread a while back with someone who posted high results from his A/T (with dyno sheet). So if you dont half ass it and you are well aware of all of the costs of FI then I would say go for it
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Originally Posted by Phil's 8
(Post 3294916)
I went ahead and deleted my posting as I was not as nice as you are. O9 Factor, Easy E1 and I have posted in several spots about this. I would have been happier if he would have just searched a little or shown that he has and asked a direct question. Oh well it's Monday morning
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Yes let the BHR guys who know their stuff get this rolling
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Well here are the 4port results based upon each style of FI
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/highest-horsepower-dynos-sc-turbo-nitrous-post-them-here-180037/page13/ Here are my charts: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-specific-performance-mods-97/fi-4-port-dyno-results-183440/ Unless someone with better results has not posted, my four port a/t with a Pettit s/c, installed by BHR and tuned by MM seems to be on the top of the 4port heap but I am sure not for long. 09 Factor is on the last leg of his new system. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 3294970)
Is this the kinder, gentler Phil? You're getting soft in your old age. :lol2:
I must be getting mellow in my old age................................Naw just out of respect for my bald headed friend. |
^hahaha still might be better than most though
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 3295038)
That may not include me!
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Originally Posted by Huntsvillerotary8
(Post 3294892)
I need some help here, and I am sick of hearing people say sell the A/T and purchase the manual. What information do you guys have on the Esmeril turbo kit vs. the Pettit Racing S/C? My main concerns are as follows
1. How much of an increase can the stock torque converter/ transmission handle? 2. Does anyone have any true dyno results of either on the 4 port? 3. do you guys think it is worth it? I am still trying to decide if it is worth my time to invest into this project . BAM! Betcha didn't see that one coming. 05rex8--1 n00b--0 http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...es/leaving.gif |
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 3294937)
Well, maybe BHR and friends can host a sane and civil conversation on the matter that will benefit all and discuss the pros and cons of each type of power-adder, especially as they are used specifically with a 4/4?
Lemme suggest one rule; we will NOT discuss airflow in terms of "manifold boost".
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 3294970)
Is this the kinder, gentler Phil? You're getting soft in your old age. :lol2:
Originally Posted by Phil's 8
(Post 3294983)
Well here are the 4port results based upon each style of FI
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=180037&page=13
Originally Posted by Phil's 8
(Post 3294983)
Here are my charts:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=183440 Unless someone with better results has not posted, my four port a/t with a Pettit s/c, installed by BHR and tuned by MM seems to be on the top of the 4port heap but I am sure not for long. 09 Factor is on the last leg of his new system.
Originally Posted by Phil's 8
(Post 3294992)
I must be getting mellow in my old age................................Naw just out of respect for my bald headed friend.
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 3295069)
The place to start with any kind of advice that is requested is to ask the OP what his desires/expectations are and the type of driving he will be doing. 99% of the driving we do is street driving. Even the weekend tracker will be no less than 80% street driving. This means that none of us are the "Jerry Racecar Driver" we think we are most of the things we read/hear about the parts we "need" is flat-out bullshit. To have an honest view of one's needs will save one a LOT of money and headache.
Originally Posted by 05rex8
(Post 3295670)
sell your AT 8 and get a....civic!
BAM! Betcha didn't see that one coming. 05rex8--1 n00b--0 http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...es/leaving.gif |
[quote 09Factor]Very nice. last leg fur sure, but we are not competing with each other. Just boils down to what can be possible with different technology. Always a Win-Win[/quote]
Competition is not bad but you are correct we are not competing.....I expect that someone with a four port will do 300+ horsepower and hope that it's one of us. Both of us have put enough love, time and money into our 8s. You know that I have had several peeps PM me and ask about going FI and I always refer them to you for turbo information. There seem to be so few of us FId four ports. I guess cuz most have been told that they can't get any or very little improvement in horsepower. Oh, I could not get post #3 to open with the link. Wonder why the OP has not returned??? |
I think it's Ray in disguise.
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Originally Posted by 09Factor
(Post 3296469)
I think it's Ray in disguise.
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i have this in mind too i think im gonna have some money to spare after the house and the new car so maybe i will keep an eye on this thread
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Sorry guys my name is not "Ray" just someone looking for some advice on the Esmeril turbo Kit. I am assuming no one has placed this on a 4 port yet though
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Originally Posted by Huntsvillerotary8
(Post 3296797)
Sorry guys my name is not "Ray" just someone looking for some advice on the Esmeril turbo Kit. I am assuming no one has placed this on a 4 port yet though
You would have a very narrow powerband , as the turbo only starts spooling at around 5000rpm . |
Originally Posted by Huntsvillerotary8
(Post 3296797)
Sorry guys my name is not "Ray" just someone looking for some advice on the Esmeril turbo Kit. I am assuming no one has placed this on a 4 port yet though
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