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Vasichko 08-13-2007 02:13 PM

RMagic Ignition solution?
 
I was browsing around on their page today and found this.

Dont know if it would work on the LHD though.

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl...Den%26pwst%3D1

Way to pricey though, $1200.

Im sure it can easily be replicated. Looks like they may be using the Okada coils.

kinchu007 08-15-2007 04:00 PM

That engine bay looks weird...isn't the brake slave cylinder supposed to be on the other side? Other than the reverse windshield wipers that looks like a USDM engine bay to me?!?

mike1324a 08-16-2007 04:03 PM

Yeah its pricey. and yes it is a jspec model. hmmmm "Plasma" huh. Maybe we have an answer to the ignition problem. Time will tell.

sauceyI986 08-16-2007 04:19 PM

I was looking at that to on the R-Magic web site to today as well to and i think it could work

Vasichko 08-16-2007 04:32 PM

Looks a bit pricey for what it is.

Im sure it could be duplicated easily.

Just find a spot to relocate the coils, entend some wires and slap on the coils.

I wonder how well of a job relocating the coils to this position cuts down on heat?


Originally Posted by sauceyI986 (Post 2017485)
I was looking at that to on the R-Magic web site to today as well to and i think it could work


MazdaManiac 08-16-2007 04:51 PM

I love how "RMagic" translates to "Earl Magic" on that page. If you say it out loud, it makes sense.
"Matsuda Speed" is also worthy of note.

Those are the Okada coils. Ray sent a set of those to a Greek forum member who reported good results, but it was butt-dyno, so that report is to be considered spurious until qualified.

Vasichko 08-16-2007 05:18 PM

So would you say this is more beneficial than using the HKS amplifier?

Also, Im wondering about the longevity of the coils themselves, replacing those could be pricey.


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2017533)
I love how "RMagic" translates to "Earl Magic" on that page. If you say it out loud, it makes sense.
"Matsuda Speed" is also worthy of note.

Those are the Okada coils. Ray sent a set of those to a Greek forum member who reported good results, but it was butt-dyno, so that report is to be considered spurious until qualified.


Charles R. Hill 08-16-2007 06:06 PM

MM, I wasn't aware that our friend, Chris, had actually installed them on a running car yet. Did he post his thoughts/impressions somewhere?

MazdaManiac 08-16-2007 07:09 PM

I don't believe the HKS or the Okada actually do anything.
Until someone provides actual science, I think both might be a waste of money.
At this point, there are a few people running the HKS and seem happy with it, so I'd hope that some real data would become available.

MazdaManiac 08-16-2007 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2017613)
MM, I wasn't aware that our friend, Chris, had actually installed them on a running car yet. Did he post his thoughts/impressions somewhere?

Maybe I misread his comments, but it sounded like they were in and he liked them and that was the whole of his assessment.

Charles R. Hill 08-16-2007 07:12 PM

Unless he installed them on another car I think he was waiting for his Mazsport kit to use them.

sosonic 08-20-2007 10:05 AM

I think the Okada Plasma are too expensive, even if they did work. Also, they are what is making the R-Magic price mind-blowing.

The HKS Twin Power ignition amplifier sounds really good. More spark and for a longer duration. The point I suppose is can it really do it. It seems everyone that has bought one was happy. I never read somebody to complain after buying them, so I'm thinking there might be something to them.

There is however a possible alternative product. This is the X-Power, http://www.sun-auto.co.jp/english/en...2/x_power.html , I'm however mystified about how it is suppose to work. It eliminates "back EMF", which helps the coil become more efficient. Unlike HKS, they are claiming direct power increases from their product. They are also twice as cheap as the HKS solution.

OZ.ou812 02-19-2008 09:36 AM

ignition soultion
 
my ignition setup; mazdadtrix wires OKADA coils Denso plugs. Not a cheap way to go but works great on butt dyno.The coil problem is electrical heat not engine heat OKADA coils double amps lower electric heat.denso leading plugs dont build up

rotarenvy 02-19-2008 03:06 PM

these look interesting http://www.mwignitions.com/

sosonic 02-19-2008 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by rotarenvy (Post 2305201)
these look interesting http://www.mwignitions.com/

Does look interesting. However Mazsport already put everything together as a package and has tested their solution. So, I think the average joe would want to see a package that is ready to just "plug and play".

As for the R-magic solution, maybe the R-magic guys need to jump aboard Mazsport's train.

Rotoman 02-19-2008 06:55 PM

Price on the coils them self is $ 735.00 that's not bad, just have to relocate them yourself. We just need to know if that's the way to go for FI...

invasion08 02-19-2008 06:58 PM

Or you can Buy Mazsports Ignition Solution that comes with everything you need for $600. And if you plan on going FI i would get them. Spark blow out is a thing of the past with this solution. Mazsport is closing in on the 400rwhp mark


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