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rotarygod 03-08-2005 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
richard is snoochie, i'm dave :)

Not that Richard. The other one.

Ajax 03-08-2005 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by cretinx
GT3540R on my RX-7 spooled up too fast! Full boost by 3000 rpm.

We've got about 1500 more rpm in the powerband to play with
Get the GT42R, you'll see full boost by 4000 and it won't matter cuz you'll have another 5500 to play with.

I wonder how fast a GT3540R would spool on an RX-8 with the stock side ports and ported. Anyone wanna make a guess?

rotarygod 03-08-2005 07:14 PM

Dave I want you to try something. This may seem really weird. I want you to put a restriction in the intake somewhere to allow less air into the engine. I want to see if the car gets faster. It sounds backwards I know but try it.

guitarjunkie28 03-08-2005 09:13 PM

LMAO
i already thought of that. we're totally on the same page here.

and so far, we've all overlooked any port actuation problems. what if the secondary ports aren't opening? it could be as simple and dumb as that. i know the aux ports are opening because there's a noticable power boost and change in sound up high, but hey, maybe i left 1 of the 3 vacuum lines unplugged or something?

if it's still kooky when we tune it, i'll bring a vacuum pump and manually actuate them just to rule that out.
hey, i'm human and although i try to make it as rare as possible, sometimes things go wrong--forget stuff or get it backwards, etc... but whatever it is, we'll get it figured out.

RX8-TX 03-14-2005 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
but hey, maybe i left 1 of the 3 vacuum lines unplugged or something?

Two things:
1. I wanted to refloat the thread.
2. Did you get the chance to rule out the vacuum lines?

guitarjunkie28 03-15-2005 03:45 PM

not yet. i've been stoopid-busy the last week, so we'll figure it all out and tune it soon.

RX8-TX 03-15-2005 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
i've been stoopid-busy the last week, so we'll figure it all out and tune it soon.

Busy's always good! ;)

guitarjunkie28 03-16-2005 03:56 PM

i've never met anyone who works so much, but makes so little :p:

burnoutking999 03-17-2005 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
i've never met anyone who works so much, but makes so little :p:

We just havent met yet. LOL. Im in the same boat, I have a different career now but still work on cars. I feel like i get to work everywhere and on everything but my own projects.

olddragger 03-17-2005 02:05 PM

guys,
I also know nothing but i do remember people playing with the cz/maf thing and finding differant voltages for differant maf. They where even swapping maf's from car to car. so tuning is the only answer. (unless the ports arent opening or that vacumn line isnt on!)
like i said i dont know nothing here.
olddragger

burnoutking999 03-18-2005 12:27 PM

hey, do you remember this car? What did you do to the engine as far as portwork goes and is it wrecked really bad or just minor. Any help would be great. Thanks guitar junkie.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327

dannobre 03-18-2005 01:09 PM

Funny...that's about the HP level mine made with a plugged up CAT....136HP

guitarjunkie28 03-19-2005 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by burnoutking999
hey, do you remember this car? What did you do to the engine as far as portwork goes and is it wrecked really bad or just minor. Any help would be great. Thanks guitar junkie.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327


ahhh, jj's car. i won't get into it in this thread, but i wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole!! if you're serious about it, pm me and we'll talk.

burnoutking999 03-20-2005 12:38 PM

tis ok, ill just take your word. it sounded kind of like that if you read between the lines.

guitarjunkie28 03-20-2005 05:49 PM

he picked it up with a salvaged title for $4500 if that tells you anything.

burnoutking999 03-21-2005 09:20 AM

I figured as much. I really didnt mind if it was just a little damage that was fixed, but if it was extensive cars rarely drive right after. Just saw your name on it and wondered how much you put into the engine as far as portwork goes and if he had some dynos.

guitarjunkie28 03-21-2005 12:30 PM

nope...he wouldn't spend the money for the dyno run. i'm kinda pissed off at how he's advertising the car. i gave him a $2-3k list of repairs that needed to be made, then he decided to sell it, and he's going off like it's a great car. no port work was done...that would have been its saving grace.

ok, i'll get into it.

first thing i'd do is tear the motor back down and replace the bearings. everything else on the motor looked almost like new. that motor started life as a reman, but whoever had it beat the royal shit out of it and the bearings got a little galled. just about every bushing on the car needs to be replaced, he made me take off the a/c and p/s (the 2 things that did make the car livable), frightening vibration above 5k rpm, one of the motor mounts is toast, diff clunks and feels like it's gonna fall right out the back, brakes click when they're applied, electrical problems for days!, crackhead malfunctioning alarm system......should go on?

it's one thing to sell a car that needs work, but he's not listing any of the stuff needed to make it a roadworthy. that's just dishonest in my book. i don't think i'll be doing any more work for that guy.

guy321 03-21-2005 12:42 PM

Thanks for being honest!! Not that I would bid on the car, but hopefully someone spots this, or this mysteriously gets forwarded to e-bay :)

In any case, this shure does put me off from vehicle shopping on e-bay!


Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
nope...he wouldn't spend the money for the dyno run. i'm kinda pissed off at how he's advertising the car. i gave him a $2-3k list of repairs that needed to be made, then he decided to sell it, and he's going off like it's a great car. no port work was done...that would have been its saving grace.

ok, i'll get into it.

first thing i'd do is tear the motor back down and replace the bearings. everything else on the motor looked almost like new. that motor started life as a reman, but whoever had it beat the royal shit out of it and the bearings got a little galled. just about every bushing on the car needs to be replaced, he made me take off the a/c and p/s (the 2 things that did make the car livable), frightening vibration above 5k rpm, one of the motor mounts is toast, diff clunks and feels like it's gonna fall right out the back, brakes click when they're applied, electrical problems for days!, crackhead malfunctioning alarm system......should go on?

it's one thing to sell a car that needs work, but he's not listing any of the stuff needed to make it a roadworthy. that's just dishonest in my book. i don't think i'll be doing any more work for that guy.


burnoutking999 03-21-2005 01:11 PM

Thanks. Back to the project... hows things going. Any more advancement.

RX8-TX 06-16-2005 11:13 AM

Ever watched 'Day of the living thread'?
I haven't followed on on this thread for a VERY long time. There is probably another thread by now with a bunch of updates. If so, could someone slap me and tell me where it is?

If not, GuitarJunkie & Snoochie....how are things going?!

guitarjunkie28 06-16-2005 02:03 PM

car is in the body shop getting the bumper fixed.

the last tiem i drove it, it was running beautifully. road-tuned to about 13:1 and 2* taken out of the timing. felt MUCH MCUH faster than stock. but it shit out on the dyno--only did like 180 someodd and the throttle plate wouldn't open past 67%. we pissed the computer off somehow :p i KNOW it's faster than that, so i think we'll just piss on the dyno until we get the stand alone installed.

microtech has informed me that the lt12 can be configured to read the crank wheel from the 8, so when the next batch of money gets saved up, i think that'll be the way we go.

share the input signals so the pcm thinks it's in charge, but injectors and ignition will be controlled through the microtech. we have to give up the knock retard, so a few j&s boxes may be employed in the future. maybe.

that's about it for now though. i'll update when we get the ems installed and i'll do a writeup so other guys with that mod in mind can give it a go.

Moostafa29 06-16-2005 03:22 PM

Thanks for keeping us updated GJ!

MadDog 06-16-2005 05:00 PM

So can you do a mild street port without much modification to the engine management? Or does it just piss-off the computer too much?

I'd be interested in doing a mild port if I didn't have to worry about the effects on the engine management, even though I have the CZ. I just don't like being restricted to 6k-9k tuning when the porting is in effect 100% of the time. Definiately don't want a stand alone yet...


-MD

guitarjunkie28 06-16-2005 07:03 PM

yea, the small streetport made like 8-9% above 4k-4500 rpm with no tuning at all. and it was running richer than stock.

it didn't take any power from down low either.

Moostafa29 06-16-2005 09:30 PM

How much louder is it over stock? And also how much more extensive could you get with the port while still maintaining emissions?


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