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Esmeril RX8 07-01-2011 01:42 PM

Need help passing inspection!! What do I need to get rid of CEL?
 
Hello everyone, I recently had my esmeril turbo kit installed with microtech and the CEL is Going to make me fail emissions... Any way to get rid of the CEL for a few mins just for inspection or is there any way to permanently get rid of it? Any advice would be helpful!!

CRO8TIA 07-01-2011 02:06 PM

Dont quote me, but I "think" the Cobb will do what you require. If I'm incorrect,which apparently I have been recently, I apologize in advance.

Esmeril RX8 07-01-2011 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by CRO8TIA (Post 4019864)
Dont quote me, but I "think" the Cobb will do what you require.

I have been thinking about switching to the Cobb because microtech is such a pain in the ass... I'm gonna just pay someone to lick n stick my inspection for me

CRO8TIA 07-01-2011 02:13 PM

Over this way, ( Croatia ) you can pay off the cop's, but not the Emission tech's. Good luck.

Esmeril RX8 07-01-2011 02:31 PM

I read somewhere that there is some Reflasher or resetter that will mask the CEL?

Esmeril RX8 07-01-2011 04:26 PM

There must be some way to get rid of this CEL....

BlackRX82006 07-01-2011 04:29 PM

Well, which CEL is it?? And the COBB will be your best bet for clearing CEL's

MazdaManiac 07-01-2011 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Esmeril RX8 (Post 4019897)
I read somewhere that there is some Reflasher or resetter that will mask the CEL?

http://www.mazdamaniac.com/cobb/accessport.htm

ShellDude 07-02-2011 10:52 AM

don't show up the day after you reset the ECU and mask the CEL (read AccessPort). Emission tests will check the # of run cycles since last reset and if the count is too small they'll fail you. I'm not sure what the exact cutoff is but you'll want to get at least 4-5 days of driving in before showing up.

TeamRX8 07-02-2011 12:27 PM

Well really all you need is a Cobb AP and their Stock tune and the Accessracer software. You can deactivate the CEL and take advantage of certain features you don't get with the IntX, yet still leave the overall tuning up to the IntX. Since you don't need AP tuning in general a used one is probably your best value alternative even if having a second tuning device is redundant

MazdaManiac 07-02-2011 01:25 PM

Indeed. Adding complexity to a car that is already running pretty poorly (check Esmeril RX8's other threads) is an excellent suggestion.

Esmeril RX8 07-02-2011 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4020530)
Indeed. Adding complexity to a car that is already running pretty poorly (check Esmeril RX8's other threads) is an excellent suggestion.

I actually just purchased the Cobb AP from you the other day. Can I just take out the microtech and then use the Cobb?

Esmeril RX8 07-02-2011 02:37 PM

And the car is running great now actually I just need a fine tune and I'm switching to cobb

ShellDude 07-02-2011 04:04 PM

Yanking the microtech and replacing it with an AP isn't plug and play kinda thing. Do not go into boost until your AP tuner tells you its safe to do so and that will likely take a number of tune adjustments first.

And it'll likely run like shit until you get deeper into the tune.

RIWWP 07-02-2011 04:06 PM

Everyone is assuming that it's the cat delete CEL...

Has the OP checked to make sure that it's the only CEL present? Aren't there other CELs that can cause you to fail emissions? Or does MM get those masked to?

Esmeril RX8 07-02-2011 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4020605)
Everyone is assuming that it's the cat delete CEL...

Has the OP checked to make sure that it's the only CEL present? Aren't there other CELs that can cause you to fail emissions? Or does MM get those masked to?

It's just the yellow icon that looks like an engine. That's the only light on

RIWWP 07-02-2011 04:19 PM

Right, a CEL. However that is a fairly inconclusive about what is actually causing it, since there are a whole mess of codes that can throw a CEL:

Check out this list for starters: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...99&postcount=1

ShellDude 07-02-2011 04:22 PM

you need to, at the very least, connect to the obd2 port with a scan tool to read off the actual code(s) that are causing the check engine light to illuminate.

It's awesome that anyone can get a turbo now with the Esmeril kit! I'm so impressed... :fruit:

TeamRX8 07-02-2011 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4020530)
Indeed. Adding complexity to a car that is already running pretty poorly (check Esmeril RX8's other threads) is an excellent suggestion.

The sad truth is there are plenty of people here ignorant enough to believe your self serving BS. Your only objection is that you not only don't get to sell him a new AP unit if he does it that way, he or whoever he eventually sells it to won't be a slave to hiring you to make changes to the locked tuning file in the future.

Because of the way an IntX integrates with the OE tune means that it can also integrate with a Cobb AP using the Cobb supplied OE tune. There's really nothing complex about it. Once you setup the Cobb OE tune with whatever settings you want like cooling fans, CEL control, etc and load it you are done. The IntX will still function WRT control and tuning no different than If it was working with a factory tune.

Why don't you spell out the redesign work he will have done to his Esmeril kit to make an AP work on it?

Esmeril RX8 07-02-2011 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4020813)
The sad truth is there are plenty of people here ignorant enough to believe your self serving BS. Your only objection is that you not only don't get to sell him a new AP unit if he does it that way, he or whoever he eventually sells it to won't be a slave to hiring you to make changes to the locked tuning file
in the future.

Because of the way an IntX
integrates with the OE tune
means that it can also integrate
with a Cobb AP using the Cobb
supplied OE tune. There's really
nothing complex about it. Once
you setup the Cobb OE tune
with whatever settings you want
like cooling fans, CEL control,
etc and load it you are done.
The IntX will still function WRT
control and tuning no different
than If it was working with a
factory tune.

Why don't you spell out the
redesign work he will have done
to his Esmeril kit to make an AP
work on it?

Thanks a lot man that helped out a bunch. I actually purchased a Cobb AP from mazdamaniac the other day because I've heard it's just better and easier. Are you saying I can just swap out the int-x for the AP? Or do I still need the int-x in it too? Kane from the forums here is flying in on the 15th to tune my car for me so he should know what to do if I switch to AP

TeamRX8 07-02-2011 11:45 PM

Dude, you have an Esmeril kit. Did you ever consider talking to Esmeril first before posting? One thing he will explain to you is that the kit wasn't designed to work with an AP. It can be made to work with one, but will require modifications. If you went off half cocked and already paid MM for a new AP and tuning service you might as well continue down that path. You will have to spend more money to get there though.

Esmeril RX8 07-02-2011 11:55 PM

Yes I have talked to them about it. I just bought one so that I can use it if I decide that's what I want to do

NgoRX8 07-02-2011 11:58 PM

Esmeril is currently in development of their AP compatible setup. You may as well wait for them or get in touch with them regarding it because if you do not know what you are doing, you will never get anywhere.

Esmeril RX8 07-03-2011 12:03 AM

I'm just going to get my microtech tuned by Kane on the 15th and I'll wait for esmeril to release there AP compatible setup

TeamRX8 07-03-2011 12:10 AM

I thought that was on their newly redesigned kit? Did you verify that it swaps over to the earlier kits?


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