Originally Posted by Rootski
(Post 2542547)
Olddragger, are you sure they're carbon nanotubes and not just regular old carbon fiber? I doubt nanotubes are being used in any consumer application, let alone wheels. They'd cost about $200k each. Carbon fiber wheels hit the market recently and they're very light but expensive and fragile. I hear they're prone to shattering in bad potholes. After all, carbon fiber is just fiberglass with a different layup material.
What I would like to see, as mentioned, are rotors made of a lighter metal like titanium or aluminum or some alloy. I'm sure these have already been tried and deemed unsuitable for one reason or another (my guess is thermal expansion or cost). Really, though, I think they should give this a go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous_metal |
Originally Posted by pdxhak
(Post 2542651)
Nanotubes have been used in golf shafts for a couple of years now...
Edit: wikipedia says nanotubes have been used in mountain bike handlebars, but they're "bulk" nanotubes, kind of a mass of broken-up nanotubes held together with substrate. And they're just reinforcing conventional polymer, not forming the structure in its entirety. I don't think plastic, even with nanotubes in it, are gonna work inside a rotary. |
carbon golf club shafts
carbon fiber wheels bulk carbon nano-tubes as a stiffening additive in a number of applications, including polymers and alloys. Unfortunately, carbon-nano-tubes (there are nano-tubes of other elements as well) increase thermal conductivity, which in an IC engine application would prove a detriment to BSFC. I don't think the rotary needs that. Of course, a thermally reflective ceramic coating on a Ti-Al (cnt doped) rotor and housings would be really cool. ;) |
I think you'd be better off using ceramics for the rotor housing and the seals, and superalloys for everything else. If you've ever seen some of the ceramics they have now, they're insane. They use them(and superalloys) in jet turbine engines to minimize creep, and their strength doesn't decline with heat until the last 10% or so before its melting point. If everything moving in that engine were ceramic or superalloy, I wouldn't be surprised to see 20k+ rpms coming out of that. Gear that down enough and you have a serious monster of an engine..
|
by the time nano technology is developed enough to make it practical to use such materials in an engine, we wont be driving internal combustion rotary engines
carbon fiber has been around since the 60's and only recently its appearing in consumer parts, soooo |
so from what I can see. we all need flux capacitors?
P.S. they should make rotors out of diamonds. |
Originally Posted by Falken
(Post 2539286)
Are any aspects of titanium technically insufficient for this application? It IS a bit ductile, especially at temp. Could there be a creeping problem?
|
^ although an alloy might work...
|
Diamond coated super titanium alloy mega super duper rotor!! yippeee. Now in the for sale section :).
|
Originally Posted by shadycrew31
(Post 2549029)
so from what I can see. we all need flux capacitors?
P.S. they should make rotors out of diamonds.
Originally Posted by 636
(Post 2550179)
Diamond coated super titanium alloy mega super duper rotor!! yippeee. Now in the for sale section :).
As far as the rotors themselves, I'd like to see them made boron carbide/aluminum composite. The material was originally developed as potential armor for helicopters where weight is a critical issue; but conventional ceramic armor lacks second strike protection. The aluminum gives the ceramic a modicum of toughness that it would not otherwise achieve. |
and yall though i was kidding around---ha!
OD |
And to think, I nearly made an on topic reply to this old thread...
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:50 AM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands