Blown motor greddy turbo kit
Blew my motor. Was running the greddy turbo kit with Agency power cat-back tuned at 9 psi making 293 whp. Made 256 at 5 psi. No driveability problems what so ever after the tune was turn key daily driver running emanage ultimate. Suspect the emanage lost the tuned map after key reset. Was romping it skating the rear when it let go shifting from 2nd to 3rd at 9500 rpm. Acually still runs but have little compression on the front rotor. Am a Audi tech by trait. Found 3 of the 4 spark plugs not working....lol. Replaced. So now car runs like crap like 60 seconds at wot to get to 60 but no check engine light anymore..haha. I just though i would tell my story kinda sucs. Im going to sell the turbo kit(only 3200 mi) get a used dropout and port it already have re headers and ap midpipe. Prob get a Rb intake and just run it like that 220-250 whp. May also run a shot. What do you think?
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Sounds like you should have replaced your ignition coils.:(
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sucks to hear that...those where some respectable numbers my recommendation is still run the turbo kit on the next motor with a different engine management such as interceptor or cobb ap @ 5psi
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Originally Posted by Gturbo8
(Post 2549399)
Blew my motor. Was running the greddy turbo kit with Agency power cat-back tuned at 9 psi making 293 whp.
What do you think? Where was the pressure measured from? |
Coils check ok plugs were bad open on center electrode lol knocked out 3 of the 4 plugs it detonated bad
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i did that turbo wont run 12 psi lol well itll spike. The cars on meth it needs it but it make 293 on 9.x psi its dyno # its all relative (basically dont mean anything so who cares)
Pessure on dyno greddy sensor was i think .03 higher or something like that so mabe like 10 psi Its either going na or alot higher than 293 whp that was numbers on the first and only tune |
OK, if you have meth and other stuff, then it might be possible, but out of the box the greddy kit makes maybe 230 whp. 9 psi usually makes in the neighborhood of 270 whp. You can go to around 12 psi, and that will make around 280-290. If you measure the pressure at the turbo, it will read high. Reading it at the intake manifold will give you a lower number, but it's more accurate on what your engine is getting.
Spiking isn't an issue, you just need to configure the boost controller. The issue is the greddy turbo is crap, and wears out after 12k miles most of the time. Also it can't feed the engine enough air over 7k rpm. Look at getting the MM turbo upgrade as the charge temps are cooler, so it's safer to run. |
yea running stage 2 snow meth and a catback and geddy kit car is bone stock other than that and has stock cat/midpipe. I run a hallman manual bc anything over 9 itll spike and settle just the nature of the turbo wastegate exaust flow. 293 whp is respecatable with the greddy kit and it blew the motor most likey cause greddy emange sucs lol.
If the car stays turbo. Ill run the greddy kit with a gt3076r (manifold,downpipe custom w/ external wastegate) Also different fuel pump, injectors more meth and different management not AP...haha) |
Originally Posted by Gturbo8
(Post 2549433)
and different management not AP...haha)
Yeah, no sense in doing things the right way this time around. |
ok whatever not tunable to me is no good have fun with ur mail flash
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seems to me he is thinking about it correctly
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Originally Posted by Gturbo8
(Post 2549439)
ok whatever not tunable to me is no good have fun with ur mail flash
Meanwhile you're like the 9 billionth blown from using the emanage. |
Originally Posted by whoneedspistons
(Post 2549441)
seems to me he is thinking about it correctly
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ok well thats how everyones doing it i dont want to argue rx8 owners r usaually down what do u drive a mustang rx8
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whats the point of the.. do it my way or the wrong way mentality?
0 blown engines that you know of on a tool that's been out for 5 months is not saying much. Behind the tool is still a tuner (granted MM is a very knowledgeable and experienced one at that), doesn't mean no one else should try their hand at tuning... |
Originally Posted by lazyboyw
(Post 2549462)
whats the point of the.. do it my way or the wrong way mentality?
There is only one justification for not using the AP at this point in time, and that is if you have a blow through setup that the AP cannot yet handle due to the MAF sensor. AFAIK there's only one turbo kit that does that.
Originally Posted by lazyboyw
(Post 2549462)
0 blown engines that you know of on a tool that's been out for 5 months is not saying much.
I don't say this out of the blue for no reason. I've used just about all the piggybacks available for the RX-8. The AP is the proper choice, hands down, no question. |
Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2549468)
There is only one justification for not using the AP at this point in time, and that is if you have a blow through setup that the AP cannot yet handle due to the MAF sensor. AFAIK there's only one turbo kit that does that.
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Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2549468)
There is only one justification for not using the AP at this point in time, and that is if you have a blow through setup that the AP cannot yet handle due to the MAF sensor. AFAIK there's only one turbo kit that does that.
But I know what you mean. |
Originally Posted by lazyboyw
(Post 2549473)
I believe the second justification as Gturbo8 has mentioned is if you want to tune it yourself...
I waited 3 years for the AP to come out. Him waiting a month isn't a big deal since he still has to replace his engine. But then again, I'm trying to explain common sense stuff to a guy who's biggest mod is a radar detector, and another guy who blows his engine up and wants to do it again. :banghead: |
Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2549476)
The street tune software should be out within a month.
I waited 3 years for the AP to come out. Him waiting a month isn't a big deal since he still has to replace his engine. But then again, I'm trying to explain common sense stuff to a guy who's biggest mod is a radar detector, and another guy who blows his engine up and wants to do it again. :banghead: I'm not saying AP is not the most flexible, robust tool on the market today, I agree with you on this. In fact, my AP is in the mail and will be here in a few days. However, as of now, it can't be tuned which is one of OP's requirements. And FYI, I like my radar detector mod! Plus I've only had the car for a few months, I'll take my time with turbo and such. |
Originally Posted by lazyboyw
(Post 2549516)
And FYI, I like my radar detector mod! Plus I've only had the car for a few months, I'll take my time with turbo and such.
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u say some stuff comes off offensive even if your joking kinda not funny lol......If Ap the best well ill go with it. im not trying to blow another motor this mistake cost me 3k and im doing labor myelf so.....Turbos fun and all but this motor is nice NA with the right mods and port may be really nice and then a shot on top to leave a turbo 8 in the dust.
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Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2549476)
The street tune software should be out within a month.
hmm ... I need to give an PM to MM :) |
NOS FTL lol. I agree the cobb AP is a very nice tool. Hope you atleast consider it man. Also im sorry about your motor , hope you get it fixed soon. Were you running on the stock turbos on the greddy?
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Originally Posted by Gturbo8
(Post 2549679)
u say some stuff comes off offensive even if your joking kinda not funny lol......If Ap the best well ill go with it. im not trying to blow another motor this mistake cost me 3k and im doing labor myelf so.....Turbos fun and all but this motor is nice NA with the right mods and port may be really nice and then a shot on top to leave a turbo 8 in the dust.
NOS... well, it is cheap and will give you a lot of power compared to bolt-ons, but I don't favor that either. It gets expensive if you use it constantly, plus you have to take the time to fill it up. Not only that, but it's a set pressure. It's more or less kinda like the stock greddy turbo. That 7 psi worked nicely for a while, but as you go to 6, 7, 8k rpm, it's not looking so hot anymore, it levels off. Isn't this true? I don't have any NOS background, so someone correct me if I'm off. |
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