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whosyourbaba 06-30-2004 04:05 PM

so long, but yay, an update!

Rosco 06-30-2004 05:52 PM


Originally posted by whosyourbaba
so long, but yay, an update!
On 6/4, Richard said it would be a month before he had any hard data. Even if it's two, I'm impressed. Of course, he still has the actuall vehicle fitment, testing, ecu issues to go...

RXhusker 06-30-2004 09:59 PM

Thanks for the update Richard -- it is much appreciated. You have a lot of guys anxiously awaiting a finished product -- but at the same time we want you to really do it right. Just feed us little tidbits as you go.

babylou 06-30-2004 10:28 PM

I just hope at the first little setback we don't get riled up. There is bound to be a setback or two along the way.

Omicron 06-30-2004 11:21 PM

Yup, and it's apt to be the ECU tuning.

GooOnYou 06-30-2004 11:50 PM

One quick question from an inexperienced supercharger user. Would you have to retune the ecu differently with a supercharger + aftermarket intake or would it be the same as a supercharger + stock intake?

DOMINION 07-01-2004 04:42 AM

I would think it would be the same.

bureau13 07-01-2004 10:12 AM

I doubt very much if the stock intake would even be an option with a supercharger. I would imagine there would be a big pipe and filter on the front of it to flow as much as possible....someone car correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt all that variable intake tract stuff would be necessary or even desirable in an FI application.

jds

MrWigggles 07-01-2004 02:08 PM

The variable length tunning of the stock intake would be unneccesary and mismatched with any FI system.

-Mr. Wigggles

rotarygod 07-01-2004 05:11 PM

I would set it up so that the variable valve system is only operated under boost. That way, when the car is running at part throttle and not under boost, it is still running with the tuning benefit of the tuned system and with max velocity through the only open runners. This would give good off boost response. When positive pressure is realized, all of the valves open and max flow is available that so the compressor can force air into the engine as easily as possible. Best of both worlds. As long as the ecu can automatically adjust fuel/timing maps based on pressure this wouldn't be an issue and a very easy solution.

zoom44 07-01-2004 05:28 PM

sometimes i need more time to post. i was thinking exactly the same thing as rotarygod and if i had got my post in first it would have looked brilliant coming from me and then having him agree:)

Richard Paul 07-01-2004 05:33 PM

And that is exactly how we are going to try and do it.

I'm still waiting on the polisher to call. Then I;ll get you the pictures of the Rx8 compressor. Or at least the parts unassembled. Assembly to follow the next day.

He promised me today, but then again he said that yesterday.

It's not my fault!!!!

Richard

rotarygod 07-01-2004 05:55 PM


Originally posted by zoom44
sometimes i need more time to post. i was thinking exactly the same thing as rotarygod and if i had got my post in first it would have looked brilliant coming from me and then having him agree:)
You're just trying to make yourself "look" intellignt by saying that!!! ;) j/k

zoom44 07-01-2004 06:38 PM


Originally posted by Richard Paul
And that is exactly how we are going to try and do it.

I'm still waiting on the polisher to call. Then I;ll get you the pictures of the Rx8 compressor. Or at least the parts unassembled. Assembly to follow the next day.

He promised me today, but then again he said that yesterday.

It's not my fault!!!!

Richard

excellent that you are going to try doing it that way! thanks again richard for the update

Tigster 07-01-2004 08:48 PM

Richard,

If you are looking for tuning on the ECU, I have heard rumors of some tuners in south florida that have been able to "crack the code" of the greddy e-manage on mazda's. The most recent car was a protege, I have been following this thread and was wondering if possibly this was a course possible for the ecu tuning. If I am wrong I am sure everyone will let me know.


- Tigster

tokenbrit 07-02-2004 03:04 PM

Richard, I've every confidence that the supercharger will be 'the business', and I am anxiously awaiting your pics. I am still a little curious about your intent with regards to tweaking the factory ECU. Would you be prepared to share this??
Also, will this kit be available without the ECU management you have chosen / will develop if your chosen solution proves to be not an appropriate choice for a certain situation.

Thanks again.

P.S. - If all goes O.K. (and I'm sure it will) show me where to sign on the waiting list :D ...

Omicron 07-02-2004 03:16 PM


Originally posted by rotarygod
...As long as the ecu can automatically adjust fuel/timing maps based on pressure...
And therein lies the rub.

tokenbrit 07-02-2004 03:19 PM

And...
Have you decided on the routing of the supercharger and it's associated components (intercooler, DV, etc..)? I would kinda like to keep my stock covers if that is going to be an option.

Thanks again (again!) :) .

rotarygod 07-02-2004 03:57 PM


Originally posted by Omicron
And therein lies the rub.
It's not a problem for a Motec!

Anthony 07-02-2004 04:14 PM

I am so looking forward to this getting completed

A

magixpuma 07-02-2004 05:49 PM

I know this is a rather noobish question but is this sorta like a plug and play sortof instalation like u hook up a few pipes into the intake with the axial charger and a new piggy back unit can some 1 show me a pic of a car with it. thank you

zoom44 07-02-2004 07:17 PM

no one can show you a pic of a car with one because he hasn't finished making the prototype yet.

Spazm 07-02-2004 08:21 PM

First update in a month was on my birthday...its an omen I can feel it!

But seriously, thanks for the updates. Anxiously awaiting successful completion of yet another strategic assault on my wallet.

Richard Paul 07-03-2004 01:24 AM

I'm having one hell of a day. If this posts then I'll be supprised. Then I'll go back to my own computer and send the photos

RICHARD

Ajax 07-03-2004 01:26 AM

ooooo photos..


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