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Old 09-21-2006, 11:20 PM
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If the at guys wanted power, they shound't have gotten a auto in the 1st place.
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Originally Posted by hitman408
If the at guys wanted power, they shound't have gotten a auto in the 1st place.
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I cant wait to see it next month! ^.^

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Old 09-21-2006, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hitman408
If the at guys wanted power, they shound't have gotten a auto in the 1st place.
It isn't always that simple. I got my AT for free as a gift, and I COULD have paid for a MT but that makes no sense.

Please stay on topic and avoid another MT vs AT thread.
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Originally Posted by hitman408
If the at guys wanted power, they shound't have gotten a auto in the 1st place.
Lord... People get the auto because of traffic ( i can drive a stick, its the bumper to bumper traffic that I deal with that annoys me enough to not want one), to play with their girlfriend while driving (try it sometime), they don't like being bothered with shifting constantly (not everyone lives on wide open country roads), need to focus on kids in the car, to focus more on watching the DVD player, etc... Don't forget that the RX-8 Autos also have a manual mode, which is not the same M/T, but provides more performance and control if wanted.

The RX-8 is unusual in the sense that while other sport cars have kept the auto performance close to the manual, Mazda (in their lack of wisdom at the time) decided to de-tune the RX-8 Autos because they were arguably too lazy to come up with a transmission and torque converter solution. By the way, put a custom torque converter in an RX-8 Auto and it would be like a different car and still Auto. For the most part, the problem wit Autos is not the engine, but the need for an Automatic Transmission Fluid Cooler (which is kind of easy to get and cheap) and the need for a custom torque converter to handle higher rpms.

Anyway, all this does not stop the demand for Autos or Autos with more power. An RX-8 Auto that has 270 HP to 300 HP would be the best of "all worlds" for many drivers.

More powerful Auto RX-8s would only increase RX-8 sales (thus Mazda did the 6speed Auto RX-8, but of course people want more power) and anybody that can create kits for RX-8 Autos owners craving more power will only be putting more money in their pockets.

RP appears to have a killer supercharger kit. Trust me, if they can do something for Autos, they will pick up some extra cash (including mine).

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Old 09-22-2006, 12:41 AM
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funny...every (major) modification I'm considering for my 8 is RP. which is cool.

also: Holy Zen! 4k posts! :D
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Originally Posted by sosonic
Lord... People get the auto because of traffic ( i can drive a stick, its the bumper to bumper traffic that I deal with that annoys me enough to not want one), to play with their girlfriend while driving (try it sometime), they don't like being bothered with shifting constantly (not everyone lives on wide open country roads), need to focus on kids in the car, to focus more on watching the DVD player, etc... Don't forget that the RX-8 Autos also have a manual mode, which is not the same M/T, but provides more performance and control if wanted.

The RX-8 is unusual in the sense that while other sport cars have kept the auto performance close to the manual, Mazda (in their lack of wisdom at the time) decided to de-tune the RX-8 Autos because they were arguably too lazy to come up with a transmission and torque converter solution. By the way, put a custom torque converter in an RX-8 Auto and it would be like a different car and still Auto. For the most part, the problem wit Autos is not the engine, but the need for an Automatic Transmission Fluid Cooler (which is kind of easy to get and cheap) and the need for a custom torque converter to handle higher rpms.

Anyway, all this does not stop the demand for Autos or Autos with more power. An RX-8 Auto that has 270 HP to 300 HP would be the best of "all worlds" for many drivers.

More powerful Auto RX-8s would only increase RX-8 sales (thus Mazda did the 6speed Auto RX-8, but of course people want more power) and anybody that can create kits for RX-8 Autos owners craving more power will only be putting more money in their pockets.

RP appears to have a killer supercharger kit. Trust me, if they can do something for Autos, they will pick up some extra cash (including mine).

Bumper to bumer traffic, play with your g/f while driving, watching a DVD instead od driving, playing with your kids instead of driving.

Dude, I think you are a prime canidate for public transportation.... Just sell your car already before you kill someone.
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Originally Posted by staticlag
Bumper to bumer traffic, play with your g/f while driving, watching a DVD instead od driving, playing with your kids instead of driving.

Dude, I think you are a prime candidate for public transportation.... Just sell your car already before you kill someone.
Yeah OK. After you sell your RX-8 first (or buy one). Who are you, RX-8 driver of the year?

I just threw down some reasons why people get Autos. If you don't want to take my word for it, than take a poll of Auto users. If you just are a "stick or die" Auto hater... Dude, grow up. Life is too short to hate.

You are not going to stop RX-8 Auto people from putting a supercharger in their cars and owning RX-8 M/T that don't have turbo or a supercharger or just having plain fun driving their car.

Just drive your RX-8, have fun, and be the professional driver that you are. Me and others, will still do what we want.

Peace and Love

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wow. feel the love. >_>

now...about that SC...I think I may do a favour for the auto folks and see if anyone in the area can machine a manifold for the auto folks. I drive MT myself, but even AT drivers want a bit of exhileration sometimes. that and I do know some killer shops around here...I'll let ya'll know if I find anything.
Old 09-22-2006, 04:02 AM
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Amen staticlag. I've always wanted to find out the accident rate of people who drive manual vs automatic. I've always thought that having to pay more attention to the driving experience (manual) makes for a safer driver.

Oh, and buying an automatic so you can "focus more on watching the DVD" WTF are you joking?
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Ok, I'll break the silence. At this time though we are not ready to call final numbers for customer units my best guess is plus 85-90 at the wheels.

That's pretty good for a super charger. I guess it doesn't eat up very much hp at max revs huh?
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Auto people are not car people.
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Originally Posted by sosonic
Yeah OK. After you sell your RX-8 first (or buy one). Who are you, RX-8 driver of the year?

I just threw down some reasons why people get Autos. If you don't want to take my word for it, than take a poll of Auto users. If you just are a "stick or die" Auto hater... Dude, grow up. Life is too short to hate.

You are not going to stop RX-8 Auto people from putting a supercharger in their cars and owning RX-8 M/T that don't have turbo or a supercharger or just having plain fun driving their car.

Just drive your RX-8, have fun, and be the professional driver that you are. Me and others, will still do what we want.

Peace and Love
Its not that M/T are any better than Autos it just way sportier to have a M/T. You think of sports car you think stick. Autos are great and all but i feel like i have more control w/ my M/T, and that what i like about the M/T.

its all kool
Old 09-22-2006, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sosonic
need...to focus more on watching the DVD player
This was a joke, right?
Old 09-22-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by hitman408
If the at guys wanted power, they shound't have gotten a auto in the 1st place.
the same could be said for the 6mt...180whp woo woo. lol
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if you are watching DVDs, talking on the phone, playing with their girlfriend you dont even deserve to be DRIVING a car, let alone an RX8.

i wonder at what point people thought that driving was a secondary task. I see bitches on cell phones, putting makeup on, and just all kinds of random ****. If you have a DVD player in the car, its for your kids or your passenger NOT you, you dumbass. I dont want you wandering into my oncoming lane and having a head-on beacuse you wanted to see adam sandler jumping around like an idiot. The worst ive ever seen so far was some old crusty bitch reading a BOOK as she drove down the road.

Oddly enough it strikes me that the type of people that want to watch a movie, play video games, get a BJ from their g/f as they are driving down the road are the 1st people that would jump out of their car yelling "WTF is your problem hitting me/getting in my way".

If i need to talk on the cell phone I put it on handsfree speakerphone and stick it on the visor or something. And even then im very short with whoever im talking to while im driving because i actually want to get back to DRIVING. Until the day there are automated systems in place to drive us around without human interaction I think very lowly of anyone that wants to **** around and do anything BUT concentrate on driving while they are driving. You can kill someone because of this **** man... its stupid.
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Originally Posted by toxin440
You can kill someone because of this **** man... its stupid.
Agreed.

like sports cars? Got an auto as a gift? Trade it in for a MT. If you kept it, you didnt need a sports car in the first place. Get a minivan.
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Enough guys, this thread is already to long I get **** about it all the time. RotaryGod reads this thread so don't be supprised if this stuff gets deleted.
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Originally Posted by sosonic
Lord... People get the auto because of traffic ( i can drive a stick, its the bumper to bumper traffic that I deal with that annoys me enough to not want one), to play with their girlfriend while driving (try it sometime), they don't like being bothered with shifting constantly (not everyone lives on wide open country roads), need to focus on kids in the car, to focus more on watching the DVD player, etc...
Geez... you're not going to win any debate with that logic, genius. You see this all the time from auto drivers, too... they don't realize there is more to driving a stick than moving a gear selector around... you actually are forced to pay attention to driving, God forbid.

And to you previous post... I think you're really overestimating the market for auto owners that are willing to modify their vehicles to this level... it is certainly going to be a small fraction compared to MT owners.
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OK peoples, that is enough about auto v's manual in this thread! Take the mass debate off-line please.

Cheers,
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Those numbers are awesome. Now I have to sell my exhaust/struts/pulleys. At least I don't have an intake to worry about selling.

So I'm assuming we'll see the SC next month right?
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Hmmmm... how am I going to convince the wifey on this SC? Anyway, can't wait for this-keep up the great job RP !
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Those numbers do look really good. Now I'm glad I just concentrated on upgrading the suspension and exhaust while leaving the intake and pulleys alone.
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The AFSC is a mod I will do to my car, but I'm about a year out. The backlog of orders should be down by then.
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all i have to say is 4cyl hyundai tiburon kit ftw.

oh and dont watch dvds while driving.

bjs are ok.


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