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09Factor's Automatic Greddy install and build out.
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The original install date in March of 2007 ,so I have had this write up on the todo list for over a year now. Now was a good time with everyone jumping on Kane's Overlord's of Boost list I might as well. Kane, its your fault for getting me to do this. :lol: Thanks buddy!
Current loadout: Engine Management: Cobb AP Jeef Tuned maps for 9 psi operation Forced induction: Mitsu Td06-18g rebuilt and balanced Greddy Profec B-Spec II Boost controller Greddy Type-Rs BOV Coated IC piping Vibrant 5 ply silicone couplers. Intake and Exhaust: Custom 4" CAI leading up the 3.5 K&N maf housing, screens before and after. Ported and modified Greddy turbo manifold (some flowbenching done) Gutted RP Supercat with header wrap. HKS Hi-Power single exit exhaust Water/Methanol inj: Turblown 4 psi Hopp switch in compressor discharge pipe Windscreen washer bottle as the reservoir The spray nozzle sprays into the compressor of the turbo. We did extensive testing on where the best place to place the nozzle based on EGT's. and this was the location that dropped the EGT's the most. (Some may question the possible water-hammer effect) This position has been implemented on 9 Rx-7's so far and no signs of any additional wear on the compressor wheel. Cooling: BHR Automatic Radiator (makes a big difference in the summer!) Single OEM oilcooler with a modified bypass plug 30:70 coolant/water mix with Purple Ice additive Monitoring and logging: Inovate LM-1 Afr running a Prosport Digital AFR gauge. Temp gauges for Tranny hot and cold sides Water temp gauge Some off-brand boost gauge. Matches the interior and came with the turbo kit. I bought the Greddy Kit used and it's condition upon arrival was fair. The Intercooling piping had oil and typical air contaminates all through them. The intercooler looked just as dirty. A 1/2 gallon of oil eater later I was all good to start installing the intercooler and intercooling piping. Also the prior owner had sent his plugs. They were black, almost to the oil soaked state. There is only one main difference with the turbo install on an automatic that I found other than tuning. AT fluid cooler hardlines are directly in the path of the Intake charge piping. No big deal, I just unbolted the hard line mount and now I have plenty of space. Those people I like to call my friends who have my thanks for this project: Elliott "Turblown" http://www.turblown.net Lift, Water inj, and oil restrictor. Jeff "Mazdamaniac" http://www.mazdamaniac.com The EMU harness changes, The Ap and the late night tuning runs. Oh yea, one more thing a MM special Catch can! Charles "Ray" Hill "Charles R Hill" https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/black-halo-racings-product-line-146611/ The #2 prototype Rx-8 Automatic Radiator (first installed) (Phil's 8 has protype #1) Jeff B http://www.fjbltd.com/ Shop, welding and beer! All of the pics can be seen here linky The intercooler and turbo-side piping installed. https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1231799790 https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1231799790 Sort-kinda stealth install. Since then I have dropped the intercooler a 1 1/2 in down. So it has more airflow to it. https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1231799790 Some dirty middle exhaust ports. The OEM manifold bolts we found were close to finger-tight. The center exhaust ports were leaking to atmosphere as shown by the soot here. https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1231799790 https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1231799790 We had to air hammer the heat shield and the passenger foot well sheet metal a little. For some reason there wasn't enough room to get to the d-pipe bolts. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6196.JPG I spy a turbo and a downpipe! http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6199.JPG Header wrapped Hi-low cat. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6200.JPG Test Fitting a flange for a future custom manifold. http://lwww.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6206.JPG Turbo is in and Elliott (Turblown) is saying "You need a bigger turbo, Dave" http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6207.JPG D-pipe is in. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6208.JPG |
The Secret-Squirrel Water/Meth spray system.
http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6212.JPG The spray side that will be facing the compressor. It's a little rough in this pic but it was refined before the build was complete. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6217.JPG A very nice pic of the POS Greddy filter and location. I was seeing 197 degree intake temps. Not a good thing.... http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6218.JPG The Exhaust system is bolted up. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6220.JPG The location of the 4 psi Hopp switch for the water/meth sprayer. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6222.JPG I've got BOOST !! http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6258.JPG The SuperUltraHyperTurbo MM catch can! NO, you can't haz! http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6264.JPG It came into being one very wacky early Monday morning. Jeef was tuning and i on the gas, this cloud of blue smoke starts billowing out from under the hood. now this was in boost mind you. Jeff's like "Dude you're afrs are good. it's probably an oil leak. We need to check it." I had vented the oil breather line to atmosphere. The oil was a little overfilled! Whoops. The car smelled for 2 months like oil. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6265.JPG Jeff grinding away. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6270.JPG Finial mount point http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6273.JPG Jeff working his Magic, Chickenwaffer was in the back snapping these pics. Thanks man! http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6275.JPG http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6276.JPG This was taken after the tune session: L to R Chickenwaffer, UCleadguitar, me, and Mazdamaniac. http://www.rccaz.com/images/turbo/IMG_6278.JPG |
BHR Automatic Radiator install
main link is here Linky! NIB Hand delivered by CRH himself! :ylsuper: :rock: :beerchug: http://www.rccaz.com/images/radinstall/IMG_7194.JPG OEM Radiator with fans http://www.rccaz.com/images/radinstall/IMG_7196.JPG pics of OEM AT fluid cooler internals http://www.rccaz.com/images/radinstall/_MG_7200.JPG comparison of the BHR (Griffin) Rad on the left and the OEM (Calsonic) on the right. The shows the amount of airflow restriction http://www.rccaz.com/images/radinstall/_MG_7204.JPG |
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Dyno plots from Febuary 28 2009 on a Dynapak @ UMS tuning.
This is the HP and Tq plots This is without Alchy spray. :) HP = 203 TQ = 222 https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1242321357 This one clearly show that I don't know what the foo how to properly tune a boostcontroller.. yes I FAIL! :lol2: The spike at 3k rpm the boost comes on quick but drops off. just need more seat time to play with it. https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1242321357 |
Blarg! Saved for Pics
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LOL - Did I add you to the "list" yet?
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i don't believe i've ever seen pics of your setup. i'll be looking forward to the pics.
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pics aren't working for me
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I only see 2 pics...
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Well Dave,, your finally gonna let everyone know what's under your hood. I thought it was just going to remain "Secret Squirrel".
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how many miles on the greddy now ?
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Total mileage on turbo: 10521. no sign of blue smoke in the exhaust.
EDIT: Pics are finially fixed that they will show to everyone. Seems like Rx8club has issues resolving the addresses of the pics in photobucket and picasa. |
looks great! I can't wait to find a good kit to buy at a great deal!
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I was asked how the Water meth system is setup. So I did a more detailed breakdown of what it really it comprised of.
The way the meth system works: Windshield washer bottle holds the H2O/alchy solution it is plumbed into a spray nozzle that is placed 10" away from the front of the turbo's compressor. There is a Hobbs switch that is set for 4 psi activation. One wire from the Hobbs switch is connected to one the windshield washer connector pins. The other pin on the windshield washer connector, is connected to the alternator. When the hobbs switch "sees" 4 psi it closes the circut and the system sprays what ever in the bottle. Some days its distilled water, other it's water/alcohol, once in a blue moon it's beer:) For now it works very well, but the windshield washer pump will go back to it normal duties and be replaced by a larger tank and a 150psi meth pump. |
how many miles were on the car before boost?
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the 8 had 38k on the odo. the motor had 17k and now it has 52k on the odo
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'Bout time, man!
I knew you had all those pictures squirreled away! You guys are going to make post up my build thread now, aren't you? |
How about your do your own work CW..... we demand build thread!
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Originally Posted by chickenwafer
(Post 2866811)
'Bout time, man!
I knew you had all those pictures squirreled away! You guys are going to make post up my build thread now, aren't you? You better do yours soon or I'll break you arms and take yur tubo.:lol2: |
Just noticed something 09 . You should drill more holes in your plastic piece in front of the intercooler . If you take the bumper off you can drill the holes the take the last bits in the corners out with a stanley knife ......
It does make a difference to your IATs ;) |
Originally Posted by Brettus
(Post 2868436)
Just noticed something 09 . You should drill more holes in your plastic piece in front of the intercooler . If you take the bumper off you can drill the holes the take the last bits in the corners out with a stanley knife ......
It does make a difference to your IATs ;) |
Where is my Turbo kit ? LOL
nice stuff :) Engine Management: Cobb AP Jeef Tuned maps for 9 psi operation |
Originally Posted by Brettus
(Post 2868436)
Just noticed something 09 . You should drill more holes in your plastic piece in front of the intercooler . If you take the bumper off you can drill the holes the take the last bits in the corners out with a stanley knife ......
It does make a difference to your IATs ;) The main reason I have not added more airflow through the black grill, I have a hard time cutting into exposed OEM pieces. just in case I want to revert to stock or something else. I have taken it out entirely and didn't like the look. the tabs are yellow back there for some reason. :banghead: I think I'll paint them black and install a black diamond patterned screen..
Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 2870321)
Where is my Turbo kit ? LOL
nice stuff :) Whos Jeef anyway ? :lol: It's rumored that he's some manicial scientist that troll's here. |
/\ you dont drill the whole thing because the bumper is behind the upper 1/2 but you can drill out the lower 1/2 and double the amount of air getting through there .....
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