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neilman01 08-24-2009 08:58 PM

problem with auto headlight leveling sensor
 
Hello, I just recently tried to install the rx8strakes footwell lights and I could not find the right harness, the only harness's that I tried to use made it so the lights would stay on constantly. I eventually gave up but when I started my car, that yellow symbol that means there is something wrong with the auto leveling sensor came on and would not go off. For about a month I let it be until I tried to fix it by taking off the sensors on the left side of the car thinking it would be corrision but those little sensors themselves are fine.
I now know that the problem is some where underneathe the dash where you install the footwell lights, if anybody has any ideas which wire it would be, I may have cut it by mistake or something because I did probably tap into about 10 wires trying to find the right one and never did.
thanks

neilman01 08-24-2009 09:00 PM

oh also now I have found the right wires for the footwell lights and those work but that still has not solved my problem for the auto leveling sensor. I have searched for a solution with no results.
thanks

Jon316G 08-24-2009 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by neilman01 (Post 3187030)
I now know that the problem is some where underneathe the dash where you install the footwell lights, if anybody has any ideas which wire it would be, I may have cut it by mistake or something because I did probably tap into about 10 wires trying to find the right one and never did.

Wow... so you just started tapping into any wire you saw? :Eyecrazy:
Please don't do any more electrical work on your car!

There are so many possibilities I don't even know where to start.
What I would recommend you do is go back under the dash and ensure all the wires are good and as close to how they were before you started guessing.
If you used "crimp-on" wire taps (which I assume you did) remove it and wrap the wires with electrical tape.
And the other wires you tapped into, make sure those are also wrapped with electrical tape so no copper is exposed.
Once you have it back the way it was, see if the light auto level light comes on.
Hopefully it won't.

Then do a search and find out exactly what wire you should really tap into or if you should run the wire into the fuse panel.
Tapping into random wires can damage components.

neilman01 08-24-2009 09:56 PM

I was trying to find the right harness for the footwell lights, when I first started, I just took the first harness and tapped into the green/black and red/blue wire and then I found out that there were many harnesses that it could have been. I have been doing a lot of electrical work on my car and this is the first problem I have ever ran into that I caused.

neilman01 08-24-2009 09:57 PM

I will try that though, does anybody know which specific wire has anything to do with the headlight sensor. I found the wiring diagram of the car but couldn't make head's or tails of it.
thanks

Jon316G 08-24-2009 10:01 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Attached is the wiring layout for the auto level control module.
You'll see the wire color code. See if you tapped into one of these.
The module is behind the glove box, so it could be any of these.

EDIT: Attached a larger file for easier reading.
Attachment 144450

neilman01 08-24-2009 11:32 PM

ok, does that mean I have to look behind the glove box? because i know what I did is in one of the wires around the footrest pedal and that fuse box area. I don't understand exactly what you mean if you could please give me some more details.
thanks

Jon316G 08-24-2009 11:50 PM

What I mean is that because of the location of the module, all wires running to and from are probably near where you were working so its difficult to say which wire to focus on.
The attachment above shows you the wires and what their color is.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of wires of different colors so it can be very difficult to know for sure.
Thats why I recommended starting over by repairing all the wires you tapped into, verify that the auto level light doesn't come on, then make sure you tap into the correct wire or fuse.

neilman01 08-25-2009 12:17 AM

ok, thanks for the help!!!

t-rex04 09-06-2009 09:02 PM

auto leveling circuit
 
it sounds like you tapped into the positive lead wire for your auto leveling circuit which would increase the resistance in the circuit causing it to trip the sensor by reducing the current going to the sensor on the circuit. I had a similar problem when I installed the LED 3rd brake light on my mine it made my traction control light stay on constantly so I used a resistor to match up the original resistance the cause was lack of restistance in my situation. I would try to directly connect the lights to the battery with instead of using your harness and run the wires through the firewall I've always found that more successful and if you'd like you could use a junction block for ''future toys'' drop me a message if you need any help. Good luck

neilman01 09-07-2009 01:24 PM

ok, well am still have no figured out how to fix it, i took all the footwell wires out and the light still comes on when I start the car...any ideas on which wire bundle has to do with the footwell lights and if so which color because i looked at the wiring diagram and couldn't make heads or tails of it.
thanks

t-rex04 09-16-2009 04:17 PM

is it possible that the sensor coincidentally just started to malfunction at the same time. The auto leveling sensor can be replaced at the dealership for free due to defects in the design of the sensor I was one of the unlucky ones that was no longer under warrantee when mine went so i had to take it apart and repair it myself. The new one they're putting in now is a redisigned one that supposedly won't allow any moisture in it so the terminals don't corrode.

wrx8 03-12-2017 06:04 PM

Has somebody wiring digram about the MANUAL levelling headlight?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...85973e38bc.jpg

Loki 03-12-2017 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by wrx8 (Post 4809214)
Has somebody wiring digram about the MANUAL levelling headlight?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...85973e38bc.jpg


This may help: Manual Headlight Level Adjuster for the RX8 » Alex Blog

Either you have HIDs and autoleveling or you have no HIDs and no leveling at all (except via adjustment screws on the headlight mount). So I'm not sure where you're going with this, but good luck!

wrx8 03-13-2017 05:01 AM

Thanks for your answer Loki!
I have HID with auto levelling, that's why the manual levelling cables are unused (as you can see on my picture, no pin in the "blind plug")
I found Alex's blog, but there is no wiring diagram about the car, only a manual, how to modify the auto levelling.

Anyway, the main reason, why I'm looking for unused wires is the fallowing:
I want to finish my cruise control system and I try to find two unused wires between PCM and steering wheel (or near somewhere) in the genuine wiring harness.
I think the headlight height adjuster potentiometer cables should be ok, but I didn't find in the wiring diagram.
Or has somebody any other/better idea?


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