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Crazy Rx-8 Driver 08-02-2007 03:18 PM

Possible problem after install?
 
So i followed all of the threads and the DIY's and my amp is still not working.

-I connected the LOC's and the RCA cables are secure. the t-taps are good, i'll try soldering them tonight if this is the issue. but i know it's not.
-The 4g power cable is ran through the firewall and the fuse is still good.
-the ground is set and grounded.

-the remote wire from the amp is connected to the pink/black wire of the amp harness... now this was my concern, since the pink/black wire is only hot once the ACC is turned on. so could this be my problem? the amp light turns on, but no power to the subs.

another 8 member said he used this wire and it worked out fine, but i havent heard back from him yet. anyone else know?

should i run it to a 12v wire with a toggle switch then?

what should i do? help!

DeViLbOi 08-02-2007 03:38 PM

If you short the RCA cable with something metal do you get a constant hum?

forbidden 08-02-2007 04:20 PM

If the amp turns on, the wire is fine. T-taps are the worst connection known to man. Get them out of there like pronto. Wear rubber gloves and full protective clothing when you do. Carefully place in trash can and secure lid down so that they do not make a break for it and find their way into a different install. If the rca cables are grounded out or hooked to the wrong wires, yes expect to get noise. If you have a ipod or any other portable device, find a mini stereo to rca adaptor cable and plug it into the amp. If no sound, then it is a bad amp or bad sub. If there is sound, then it is a bad LOC, rca cable dead shorting or bad (or wrong) wire connection.

Crazy Rx-8 Driver 08-02-2007 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by forbidden (Post 1998302)
If the amp turns on, the wire is fine. T-taps are the worst connection known to man. Get them out of there like pronto. Wear rubber gloves and full protective clothing when you do. Carefully place in trash can and secure lid down so that they do not make a break for it and find their way into a different install. If the rca cables are grounded out or hooked to the wrong wires, yes expect to get noise. If you have a ipod or any other portable device, find a mini stereo to rca adaptor cable and plug it into the amp. If no sound, then it is a bad amp or bad sub. If there is sound, then it is a bad LOC, rca cable dead shorting or bad (or wrong) wire connection.

haha great advice everr!!!!

so i took the T-Taps out and used a different wire connector and it works! lol. i should have known those damn taps wouldnt have worked. oh well, was the first time trying them out and will be my LAST.


now that the audio works... im just a little dissappointed on the Bass level.. i want MORE!

DeViLbOi 08-03-2007 06:56 AM

What size/type amp and subs did you use? Have you adjusted the freq response on the amp? Did you turn the volume up on the amp?

jstkilntim 08-03-2007 04:36 PM

I'm sure it is one of the other threads, but................
Bose or non Bose?
Type of converter used?
Before or after amp? (if Bose)
What equipment did you install?

Jedi54 08-03-2007 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by DeViLbOi (Post 1999037)
What size/type amp and subs did you use? Have you adjusted the freq response on the amp? Did you turn the volume up on the amp?

that was going to be my question. Not enough Bass??? What did you put in there?
Did you adjust the gain?

forbidden 08-03-2007 05:46 PM

Get rid of the LOC and buy a proper interface adaptor. The Audio Control 6XS is the adaptor that you need. Do a search on it and you will find out why.

WikkedOne 08-03-2007 05:56 PM

alot of people claim they get poor signal when they tap before the bose amp. if you had a good LOC it can correct this, or you can tap after the amp, but your going to get alot of distortion and weird stuff...

Crazy Rx-8 Driver 08-03-2007 09:10 PM

I'm not at home at the moment, but lets see...

I followed the Sticky's version of the install. i tapped the LOC to the signal before the Bose amp. - to - and + to +.

it's a 500WATT 2-Channel amp. I adjusted the gains, but I dont have a Bass controller, it broke on me so i cant adjust it manually... is there another way i can adjust the Bass level on the Amp itself?

I will definately check out on the Audio Control 6XS Interface adaptor.

jstkilntim 08-04-2007 08:59 AM

For the billionth time, a LOC is for converting speaker level inputs to a pre amp signal. This is not what you have before the bose amp, so it will not give optimal results, even if some people have had good (to them) results.

Use a line driver before the amp for the cleanest signal.

Most bass controllers are universal.

kimota 08-04-2007 03:12 PM


it's a 500WATT 2-Channel amp. I adjusted the gains, but I dont have a Bass controller, it broke on me so i cant adjust it manually... is there another way i can adjust the Bass level on the Amp itself?
I have 2 bass controllers for Rockford Fosgate amps I'm not using they use network cable that plug into amp and knob control.

If you have Rockford Fosgate amps I'll send you one free :)

Crazy Rx-8 Driver 08-04-2007 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by kimota (Post 2000939)
I have 2 bass controllers for Rockford Fosgate amps I'm not using they use network cable that plug into amp and knob control.

If you have Rockford Fosgate amps I'll send you one free :)

Sweet Deal my Rockford Fosgate Amp is around 2004ish so it has the 6 wire connector( that telephone plug-ish connector), i know the newer ones have 8 and the early 2000 models have 4...i've been looking around everywhere online to get my hands on one.






Originally Posted by jstkilntim
"Use a line driver before the amp for the cleanest signal."

Explain this to me in detail please. I'll look to see if there's pics for this. So the LOC that uses the RCA cables is no good? damn, i just wasted 70 bucks for that damn thing then, if that's the case. :(

jstkilntim 08-04-2007 08:57 PM

A LOC is designed to take higher voltage signals and turn them into lower voltage signals for amps (or other equipment) that is not designed for high voltage inputs.

The Bose HU does not have a high voltage output. Therefore taking a low voltage signal and lowering it even more just to get RCA plugs is not an ideal situation & will not give the results that most are looking for.

Since the HU output is fairly flat & full range, for less tha $10.00 you can easily add RCA plugs to your bose (pre amp) wiring for better results than using a LOC. If you are using good equipment that accepts a higher voltage input, you are best off using a line driver to boost the signal to the amp. Line drivers are designed to boost voltage w/ minimal noise increase. This in turn allows you to lower the gains on your amp which usually reduces overall system noise.

You will notice that most competition systems have several line drivers to achieve optimal results.

Also, w/ all of that being said, there are a few manufacturers w/ LOCs & line drivers in the same unit. If you don't mind spending the money, which is well worth it in the end, these are definitely easier to install since they have speaker level inputs.


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