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krijpipudht 09-04-2008 07:27 PM

Need help with in-dash custom Carputer
 
From looking around this forums, I guess in-dash carputer is not so popular.

I am starting to order parts for my custom build.

My questions are
- My in-dash carputer will replace OEM stereo. How can I connect the audio to OEM speakers? What type of build-in amp do I need?

- Do I need a Corksport kit to keep AC display working? (well, I need their face plate anyway, right?)

- How can I utilize wheel controler? Do I need PC-2-Car adapter?

- Does rx-8 has radio antenna? What type of jack is it? I would like to connect FM/AM radio to the car for better reception.

Thanks in advance,
Tony

eastcoastrotary 09-05-2008 09:17 AM

Integrating with the OEM speakers is possible, but difficult. The Bose amp controls the speakers and does not interface well with a non-OEM head unit. Most people, if I'm not mistaken, have replaced their whole sound system when doing a car PC. Then you can have an amp that's made for the speakers while a sophisticated audio card controls it on your computer.

I would look at the Metra kit (search forums...there's one long one about it and a few others I believe), which comes out very soon, instead of the corksport. It will fit better, retain use of A/C controls and screen, and have a double-din slot for your touchscreen.

Corksport does make a wheel controller kit, but it's designed to link to an aftermarket head unit and is not what you want. I think your best bet is to try and hook up some wires from the wheel control panel to a USB port and then program the buttons to do what you want them to through your front end. There is software designed to incorporate external controls like that, but I forget the name.

The RX-8 does have a radio antenna (it's centered in your rear windshield), but I've only heard of people getting a new AM/FM controller for a car PC setup. These typically fit right in with the computer assembly, but can be placed elsewhere. The stock antenna is a pain to access and you'll be better off with a new one anyway. You could get XM or Sirius while you're at it.

As a general reference, mp3car.com is a tremendous resource that has a lot of in-depth information about car computers and electronics. There are a couple RX-8s on it. A few of them are members here but, as you said, car computers aren't discussed all that often. Good luck on your build.

alz0rz 09-05-2008 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by krijpipudht (Post 2626512)
From looking around this forums, I guess in-dash carputer is not so popular.

I am starting to order parts for my custom build.

My questions are
- My in-dash carputer will replace OEM stereo. How can I connect the audio to OEM speakers? What type of build-in amp do I need?

- Do I need a Corksport kit to keep AC display working? (well, I need their face plate anyway, right?)

- How can I utilize wheel controler? Do I need PC-2-Car adapter?

- Does rx-8 has radio antenna? What type of jack is it? I would like to connect FM/AM radio to the car for better reception.

Thanks in advance,
Tony

It's not worth the effort to try to interface with the stock Bose system.. the impedances on the front speakers are completely weird.. i think something like 0.5. You will be hard pressed to find an amp that will work in that range and the impedance of 2 for the other speakers. Just redo your sound system. At the bare minimum you can buy a decent amp (still gonna be better than the Bose in regards to quality) and just swap out the 2 front speakers. Then you just run RCA cables from the PC into the new amp. A decent amp will run you $150 and the two front speakers ~$100.

Remember Metra is coming out with an alternative to Corksport. Yes, you will need one of the modules to maintain the display up there. In fact removing the stock head unit will render the entire A/C useless.

Sure you can use the a car2pc thing but that thing is very limited. It's all based around the drivers that are made for it and how friendly the software you want to use it with was made. At the best you'll maybe get the forward/rewind/volume buttons working.

You could always extend and relocate the OEM head unit so you don't have to deal with replacing the amp and speakers. Then you just run an aux-in from the headunit and plug the carpc into it. You could also mount your LCD on the dash with a nav dash tray holder, a jdm nav hood, or the oem hood. This way you keep the most stock like look without going through a wiring nightmare... which you're going to go through anyway just running the cables for the computer.

firebirdude 09-05-2008 11:55 AM

mp3car.com rocks my socks. Yes you will need the Metra or Corksport kit to retain A/C and for the double din dash piece. Yes you will need a separate piece to retain your steering wheel controls.

As for the Bose system... for starters if you're short on money and happy with the Bose system now. You can snag up a few of these:
http://store.jlaudio.com/image.php?productid=16222
They're just RCA to speaker wire connections. RCA ends to your sound card and then run the speaker wires back to the Bose amp. Splice them into the amp's input for each speaker. Quite certain it would work, but if it doesn't or you're simply not happy with it, big deal. $10 and a couple hours lost. Replace with aftermarket gear.

FastRX8 09-05-2008 12:30 PM

I'm purchasing stuff for my carpc.
I bought this for an AM/FM and HD Radio.
http://www.gooddeals18.com/product/DMHD1000?meta=FRG
It's $69.99 and there is a $50 rebate so it's $19.99
Plus, over at Mp3car.com, there is a guy that made an interface cable for this radio that connects to your carpc for an interface.
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/user...les-ready.html
As far as putting it in your dash, the metra kit (not quite out yet), looks better than the corksport version.
It's also cheaper, and has better fitment.

Jedi54 09-05-2008 12:43 PM

all this talk about Car PC's. :banghead:

rollerbldes 09-05-2008 12:49 PM

Makes me wonder what mazda was thinking when it designed the A/C into the headunit. Would make life so much easier if everything was modular.

Socket7 09-05-2008 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by firebirdude (Post 2627547)
mp3car.com rocks my socks. Yes you will need the Metra or Corksport kit to retain A/C and for the double din dash piece. Yes you will need a separate piece to retain your steering wheel controls.

As for the Bose system... for starters if you're short on money and happy with the Bose system now. You can snag up a few of these:
http://store.jlaudio.com/image.php?productid=16222
They're just RCA to speaker wire connections. RCA ends to your sound card and then run the speaker wires back to the Bose amp. Splice them into the amp's input for each speaker. Quite certain it would work, but if it doesn't or you're simply not happy with it, big deal. $10 and a couple hours lost. Replace with aftermarket gear.

yeah, It might work. may also sound like crap with the Bose amp expecting a differential signal, but it may not. I've only heard of people frying the head units, never an amp itself, so I'd say it's something safe to try at least.

firebirdude 09-05-2008 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Socket7 (Post 2627665)
so I'd say it's something safe to try at least.

Exactly. The investment is very little and you're not going to ruin anything with this. Hell, if you lived near me, I'd give them to you for free. I've got probably 20 pairs lying around my shop.

EDIT: Hell, if you lived near me, I'd help you with the install. lol

krijpipudht 09-05-2008 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by eastcoastrotary (Post 2627313)
Integrating with the OEM speakers is possible, but difficult. The Bose amp .....................................

Thanks, I have been around in mp3car for a while, never post though.

Oh and I dont have Bose. So I might go with this config.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...c-caraudio.jpg
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/faq-...tereo-amp.html

firebirdude 09-05-2008 08:08 PM

Ummm.... your sound card doesn't have four-channel RCA outputs?

krijpipudht 09-05-2008 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by alz0rz (Post 2627445)
It's not worth the effort to try to interface with the stock Bose .......
You could always extend and relocate the OEM head unit so you don't have to deal with replacing the amp and speakers. Then you just run an aux-in from the headunit and plug the carpc into it. You could also mount your LCD on the dash with a nav dash tray holder, a jdm nav hood, or the oem hood. This way you keep the most stock like look without going through a wiring nightmare... which you're going to go through anyway just running the cables for the computer.

Thanks, I saw your system already, nice! But I would like to go into different direction. I like the R3 style.

http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/i...8_interior.jpg

krijpipudht 09-05-2008 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by rollerbldes (Post 2627645)
Makes me wonder what mazda was thinking when it designed the A/C into the headunit. Would make life so much easier if everything was modular.

That what make me crazy....
My girlfriend Eclipse G4 faceplate cost $29.99..... :banghead:

krijpipudht 09-05-2008 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by firebirdude (Post 2628279)
Ummm.... your sound card doesn't have four-channel RCA outputs?

It is Intel D945GCLF Mini-ITX Motherboard with Integrated Atom on board sound card.
Spec said it has 2+2 channel.... I am not sure.
Later, I might upgrade to SB Audigy.

krijpipudht 09-05-2008 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by cesaralaniz (Post 2627605)
As far as putting it in your dash, the metra kit (not quite out yet), looks better than the corksport version.
It's also cheaper, and has better fitment.

Is it the one we are takling about in this
"Confirmed - Another dash/install kit is coming."

firebirdude 09-05-2008 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by krijpipudht (Post 2628286)
Is it the one we are takling about in this
"Confirmed - Another dash/install kit is coming."

Yep. Next few weeks.

alz0rz 09-05-2008 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by krijpipudht (Post 2628284)
It is Intel D945GCLF Mini-ITX Motherboard with Integrated Atom on board sound card.
Spec said it has 2+2 channel.... I am not sure.
Later, I might upgrade to SB Audigy.

Yeah that is the same motherboard I have.. it is 2+2 meaning you can configure it (via software) so the other line-in acts as line out for 2 more channels.. it's basically 4 channel. Therefore you don't need to have that Y adapter there.

REtali8 09-16-2008 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by krijpipudht (Post 2628281)
Thanks, I saw your system already, nice! But I would like to go into different direction. I like the R3 style.

http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/i...8_interior.jpg

FYI.. this is not the R3 style. That is a GT w/ Nav. R3 isn't available with Navigation.

darkdrago 09-17-2008 07:09 AM

haven't gone to install my carpc yet but since I only want the pc in there for music and gps I am going to just install an AUX port on the head unit and run a cable from the computer to the AUX port and have that handle the audio portion


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