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slllygrl10 12-05-2004 01:39 AM

JL Audio Question
 
I want to upgrade my sound system. I want to get 2 10's I'm thinking about getting the 10w3v2 are those any good? And how about the amps what would be the best amp to power 2 10's? Thanks

RX82004 12-06-2004 05:12 PM

I used to have 2 10w3v2s in my jeep wrangler...they are great subs...the best amp is the jl 500/1. Pricy amp but u get what u pay for....around 500 dollars...550 from the store. If u want a less expensive amp look at Kicker Amps. But yes, the subs are great.

MrWigggles 12-06-2004 06:28 PM

I have one 10w3v2 and it is definitely capable of producing more bass than what the Bose system really needs for "balanced" sound. In terms of dB I am running the sub at about 6dB below its max (i.e. one half its excursion max and thus 1/4 its max input power of 600 Watts)

Two 10w3v2 with over 500 watts behind them is going to be REALLY loud and suitable for nothing other than bass freaks IMO.

You can see the sub enclosure I am using here:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...3&page=3&pp=40

Right now I am only using 1 sub. 1 sub in 1 of these molded fiberglass enclosures is a lot of bass. I can not imagine what two enclosures will sound like. When I get my complete system, I might go to a two sub system or I might just stay pat. I have not decided.

Anyway, you can't go wrong with the 10W3V2. It is an awesome sub.

-Mr. Wigggles

staticlag 12-06-2004 10:58 PM

Im running 1 10w7 w/ the 500/1 firing directly into the cabin though the passthough port. The quality is awesome! And when I want it to, it hits hard!

bigblockbeater 12-06-2004 11:15 PM

i just purchased two JL Audio 8w0's and a Total Mobile Audio 400w rms two channel amp. i haven't put them in yet but i know the speakers are good. i was told by the sales rep that Total is a new company owned by JL Audio. from looking at the amp (have not heard it yet) it is of very good quality. very stout construction! i payed $400 for the two 8inchers the amp and a JL wiring kit. i ran the wires myself to save $50 bucks and am going to be building a box soon. if you are wondering, i got the 8inchers for space and weight reasons.

mlino01 12-07-2004 01:34 AM

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heres another option that will leave you some trunk space. Im told that rear firing subs work well.

slllygrl10 12-07-2004 10:49 AM

whats the difference between the 10w3v2 with dual 2 ohm, dual 4 ohm and dual 6 ohm????

staticlag 12-07-2004 11:21 AM

The different resistance speakers are used to simplify the setup of a multi-speaker system.

It deals with electrical properties.

Amps can only deliver consistent power within a certain ohm(resistance) range. Most cheaper amps only deliver their rated wattage at a specific ohm level. 1000watts at 1 ohm, or .5 ohm.

Ohm is a measure of the resistance of whatever electrical device you are using.

The smaller the gauge connections & less efficient design of the speakers cause higher ohm ratings, because it requires more electrical force to move them, let alone produce sound(or you can engineer them with...resistors to tailor them to a specific purpose...ie. this case).

Ohm is the standard measurement of resistance.

So (just an example!, I didnt look up these figures) with a 2 ohm load on that sony 1000watt amp rated to give: [1000watts at 1 ohm], your speaker is only getting 500watts of power, if you had a 4 ohm load speaker, it would only be getting 250 watts, likewise if you had a .5 ohm speaker it would be getting a very dangerous 2000 watts of power.

It all deals with setting up the electrical system. By making different resistance speakers it simplifies their setup in multiples. With a 1000watt amp rated to 1 Ohm, and six 6 Ohm speakers setup in parallel, you would be achieveing the rated 1 Ohm total resistance and thus putting the amps 1000watt potential to all 6 of your speakers.

If you used 4 ohm speakers in that setup, you could only use 4 speakers setup like that and achieve the 1000watt output.

There are ways around this, so its not really a big deal, but, like I said, it just makes multi speaker setups more simple.

staticlag 12-07-2004 11:31 AM

Well, when I said lower gauge I meant smaller wires. (Lower gauge # is actually bigger wires)

And as you can see, the whole amp-sub system is complex, and most companies just paste a "1000watts!" on their product as a blanket term to fool people that don't know better.

And, just for clarification, if you did have a 6 speaker setup, the total wattage each of the 6 would be 1000/6 = 166 watts/speaker, the Ohm setup just deals with the total load output of the amp, not the watts/speaker config. The way I said it above kinda made it sound like you could *actually*get away with just 1 1000watt amp with 6 subs just the same as it could output to 4 subs(1000/4 = 250 watts/speaker), wow! that would be great in a dream world!

Plus, cheaper amps do a really crappy job of putting out their *constant output watt #*, they dont handle drain very well, responding with a non smooth voltage spike (bad for speakers).

mikeb 12-07-2004 02:10 PM

I love JL
I have had them in all my cars
my rx8 has 2 12inch jl w3 subs and they hit hard and last real long also

Jedi54 12-07-2004 02:52 PM


my rx8 has 2 12inch jl w3 subs and they hit hard and last real long also
Two 12's?! Wow, got any pics?

Sorry to get off track on this post but just curious how 12's would fit in an RX.

10w3v2 are GREAT subs. Buddy of mine has them in his Jeep Grand Cherokee and they sound SWEET!

mikeb 12-07-2004 07:56 PM

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-interior-audio-electronics-24/subs-my-r8-pics-8570/

EvilBostonRX8 12-12-2004 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by RX82004
.the best amp is the jl 500/1.

Ahh no. The JL 1000/1 is better as are the Zapco amps.

ScudRunner 12-12-2004 12:22 PM

A 1000/1 would probably be way more than she needs to power two 10W3v2s. The JL Audio website is all slow right now, so I can't say for sure. I have two 8W3v2s myself, fixing to upgrade to four when I get my custom trunk done. I run the two 8's off of a JL 250/1; I really can't imagine two 10's needing 750W more than the two 8's (unless you start talking about 10W7s perhaps).

yz007 12-12-2004 03:20 PM

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Hey I have 2 10w3v2 the sound is awsome, mostly the tonal balance, first i had the kappa perfects, they were nice, then i had 2 rockford punch stage 3's, finally I have the JLs, I could not be happier, they sound awsome, I am only running 300 watts right now, I plan on getting a 500.1, which should be the perfect amp for them, here is a pic of my setup

cooldriver88 12-15-2004 05:38 PM

staticlag do you have any pictures of your set up?

thew 12-15-2004 06:36 PM

Pics !!!

Megatron_98 12-15-2004 09:52 PM

I'm also a fan of JL, I have 2 10w0's in the trunk of my car now with a 250/1 amp. they sound great, exactly what I was looking for. I have a box that fits between the wheels and the amp is in the floor of the trunk, covered in plexi and lighted with 2 blue neons that act as my new trunk light.

RX82004 12-15-2004 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by EvilBostonRX8
Ahh no. The JL 1000/1 is better as are the Zapco amps.

Its funny you say this...at the end of owning my Jeep Wrangler i actually put the 1000/1 on my two 10w3v2s. I planned to get a 13w7 b4 i found the RX-8 because i was planning on getting one of the new acura tls...so needless to say taht amp is bad for the subs...bad enough to have 3 replacement subs...just thank god theyre under warranty. That thing puts out a hell of a lot of power...a bit too much for those subs...esp if u wanna listen to em loud, u gotta worry abt them blowing.


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