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Jedi54 12-25-2007 01:52 PM

DIY: RB Gauge Pod + Nordskog Digital Gauges
 
I've always liked the idea of the Racing Beat Gauge pod but I never truly cared for the gauges that come with it. After some research and help from a forum member, I decided on trying out the Nordskog Street Digital's. The bonus to using the digital gauges is it eliminates the need to run Stainless steel lines (of hot fluids) into the back of the gauge pod. A leak there would be really bad.

If you're thinking of going this route, here's what you'll need.

- Racing Beat Pod ($115 + shipping)
- Water Temperature Gauge $66
- Oil Pressure Gauge ($66)
- Oil Temperature Gauge($66)
- Racing Beat Oil Pressure and Temperature Sensor Adaptor ($64)
- Racing Beat Water Temperature Sensor Adapter ($29)
- Nordskog Pressure Sending Unit ($36)
- Nordskog Temperature Sending Unit ($16 x 2)

Update on Nordskog As of 9/15/2009, Nordskog has ceased operations indefinitely so you will no longer be able to buy these gauges. All you have to do is substitute another gauge manufacturer and follow the instructions below and you should be all set.

Other Misc items:
- Wire cutters
- hose clams
- teflon tape
- grounding clamp for oil pressure sender
- electrical wiring
- zip ties
- soldering gun (optional)
- flex guard (optional)
- Racing Beat Installation instructions. Most of these instructions are still relevant even though we're running the wires through a different area.
- Oil Filter
- 4 quarts of 5w-20
- Standard tools: ratchet set, screwdriver, exacto knife
-Vampire clips
- box of end connectors (male and female)

When you're ready to begin, you should have a countertop that looks similar to this:
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Pre-assemble everything. The area around the oil filter is VERY compact and you will not have room to maneuver.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...d/P1000540.jpg


Follow the Racing Beat instructions for installing the Water Temperature Adapter. Since these wires have to run across the entire engine bay in order to get into the cabin of the vehicle, I used some flex guard to hide the wires. (2nd pictures) Your finished product will look like:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...d/P1000542.jpg

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Follow Racing Beat instruction on installing the Oil Adapter. You will want to do an oil change on your car at this point. Finished product will look like: (excuse the crappy picture)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...d/P1000538.jpg


Now it's time to ground everything and start running some wires. Thanks to forum member Elf for doing the legwork on this one. (borrowed from his thread)

Please excuse the dirty engine bay ... didn't get a chance to clean it before the pics were taken.

Requirements:
* Exacto knife
* Being a contortionist and double-jointed helps a lot working underneath the dash and steering wheel


Water temp sending unit:
Body of sending unit grounded with hose clamp and wire to the chassis

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Oil pressure and temperature sending unit:
Body of the oil pressure sending unit grounded with a larger hose clamp and wire; body of the oil temperature sending unit can be seen above (behind) and to the right of the large oil pressure sending unit. It was grounded the same way as the water temp sending unit. Just a side note: it's best to connect and tighten ALL the sending units and wires to the RB oil adapter before you install the adapter --- you won't have very much room to turn wrenches down there once it's installed.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...f/IMG_0222.jpg

Both the grounding wires of the oil pressure and temp sending units were attached here (near the brake master cylinder and hood hinge area)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...f/IMG_0223.jpg


Routing wires from the cabin to the engine bay:
Access to the engine bay can be made through the large rubber grommet just above and to the right of the clutch pedal. This grommet already supplies a large bundle of wires to the engine bay, but by cutting a slit in the grommet, in the trough surrounding the existing wire bundle, you can push your wires through to the engine bay. They'll exit just below the master brake cylinder.

Rubber grommet is just behind the brake pedal in this picture

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...f/IMG_0227.jpg

Close-up of the grommet. Note that there's kind of a rubber flap that straddles and covers the large wire bundle --- this can be lifted up and out of the way for better access to the grommet. You can see the wires (six 18-gauge wires and two larger black wires for the Tein EDFC) that I fed through just inside the rubber-like flap that covers the grommet. I used the Exacto knife to cut a 0.5 inch (approx.) slit in the trough for the wires. I tried resealing that section with silicone sealant, but it got a little messy (and probably not necessary anyway).

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...f/IMG_0239.jpg

The rubber grommet is difficult to get to and running wires through is just as much fun. One trick I used here was to puncture a small hole using a sharp knife and then wedge a long socket into the grommet. This will allow a passage way for you to run all the wires.


Once you have the wires through the gromet, remove the socket and seal with silicone. The wires will then be run underneath the steering column and towards the back of the center dash. You'll need a few zip ties here so you don't have any wires hanging loose that could eventually get caught on something.

Here is where the soldering gun came in handy for me.
Instead of running 3 grounds (one per gauge) and tapping 3 wires off of the power source, I ran ONE wire, and soldered 3 small wires off of the source. A screw on wire tap would accomplish this same goal, its up to you which route you want to take.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...d/P1000536.jpg

The Nordskog gauge instruction will walk you the rest of the way as far as wiring the gauges. The Racing Beat instructions will once again come in handy for tapping into the light that used to be in your cigarette lighter compartment. This will allow the gauges to dim by 50% when you turn on the lights. Remember to pay close attention as to which wire goes where. If everything is connected properly it should look something like:


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http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...d/P1000566.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...t/IMG_9610.jpg


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Thanks to forum member Newcastle for assisting in the installation. We actually installed this mod on both of our cars.
Side note: this is not a HARD mod to install, it will just require some patience, some general mechanical skills, and lots of time. Set aside a 3-4 hours on a weekend and I'm sure you'll find that your time was well worth it.

If there's pictures of anything else you need just let me know and I'll either post them right up or go out to the garage and take them.

laythor 12-25-2007 01:56 PM

nice job Jedi!

Sticky!!!!

gregs 12-25-2007 02:03 PM

very nice install i plan on running the same setup as you very soon glad to see pictures and details!

Rotary Rasp 12-25-2007 02:51 PM

whoa, very nicely done jedi....


p.s. - i really like those footwell lights you got!

shinka213 12-25-2007 03:22 PM

the power of the schwarzzzzzzz compellzzzzz me....

bump for your stickyness!!!


:naughty:


nice work jorge....youre always involved in a top notch project...

rx8convert22 12-25-2007 03:37 PM

Very nice! Seems like a great solution. Sticky this for sure.

I was curious after you coolant has warmed up how much longer does it generally take for the oil to warm up? I am just curious how long after my coolant needle reaches its max can I really run her hard.

Jedi54 12-25-2007 04:23 PM

Thanks everyone! Glad to see you guys like my work and the requests for a sticky are a great compliment. Maybe the mods will listen and grant this a sticky. :D:

RX8: I am running the High flow pump from Mazmart so my coolant temps change a little faster then with the OEM. At highway cruising speeds the temperature of the water is approx. 182 degrees. Usually a minute or two after that the oil has settled somewhere in the 165-170 range and you can start driving agressively.

Jedi54 12-25-2007 04:24 PM

Oh, I forgot to mention one of the best features of these Nordskog gauges. All the gauges have a recall button (little black thing at the bottom)

You can recall the highest reading since the last time your car was turned on. The oil pressure gauge will tell you the lowest AND highest pressure it's logged.

shinka213 12-25-2007 06:07 PM

and.........another advantage is that they are digital...my wideband is digital...wish i could have afforded to get the boost and water temp in digital...

if youve got cash to throw around, nexus is the way to go....

youve got an excellent set up jorge..

swoope 12-25-2007 07:30 PM

very nice look and good write up..

thx.

beers :beer:

dmc27 12-26-2007 09:07 AM

Looks great! Nice job.

scremn8 12-26-2007 09:22 AM

jedi i remember alot of things you said you bought, but i did not know you bought out radio shack...

ok sorry i forgot, this was a two car deal..

RA-Eight 12-26-2007 10:52 AM

That looks really nice, matches the interior very well. Digital readout is the way to go for that location.

Jedi54 12-26-2007 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by scremn8 (Post 2209501)
jedi i remember alot of things you said you bought, but i did not know you bought out radio shack...

ok sorry i forgot, this was a two car deal..

HAHA!! The Radio Shack guys kept giving me funny looks, they must have thought I was building a bomb. :cool:

lxlxlxl_saki_lxlxlxl 12-26-2007 11:27 AM

nice jedi, i was looking to put on such gauges too... but seems too complicated for me. do you know any shop which can do it for me or how long do you take to install those?

NgoRX8 12-26-2007 11:38 AM

that set up is off the chain, jorge! haha well done!!!!

nice detailed instructions too

chetrickerman 12-26-2007 11:44 AM

Stickyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!

Razz1 12-26-2007 11:53 AM

Very nice indeed.

Now what are thecons concerning digital gauges over mechanical?

NgoRX8 12-26-2007 12:08 PM

if you mean cons of electrical versus mechanical, they run off the 12 Volt power. if your electrical system goes haywire it can affect your readings. but electrical gauges now-a-days are pretty reliable.

DarkBrew 12-26-2007 01:14 PM

I really like this mod, especially the fact that only wires run into the cabin.
This is going on my list of things to do.

kimota 12-26-2007 01:56 PM

Very slick, nice detail in the write up.

Only problem now is where are you gonna put your weed? :)

lxlxlxl_saki_lxlxlxl 12-26-2007 02:55 PM

Jedi, anyway we can local meet up help me out if i wanted to install?..lol =]

dmc27 12-26-2007 04:19 PM

sticky???

kersh4w 12-26-2007 04:47 PM

how much did the 3 electric gauges cost you?

im gonna buy the rb gauge pod in the new few months. but digital looks really nice.

how much can you sell the oe gauges?

Jedi54 12-26-2007 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by kersh4w (Post 2210206)
how much did the 3 electric gauges cost you?

im gonna buy the rb gauge pod in the new few months. but digital looks really nice.

how much can you sell the oe gauges?

The guages were purchased from www.summitracing.com for approximately $66 each.
The RB pod can be purchased sepeately for $96
At the end of the project you pretty much break even going digital (and buying the parts yourself) Full RB kit = $450.

I thought about selling the guages but I didn't figure there was much of a market for them


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