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Musker 09-19-2008 02:06 PM

Those with a front diffuser, like Seibon, Autoexe, or RE-A
 
Have you noticed a difference in driving at high speeds?

At 130 mph my car, stock with no appearance package, felt like it needed something to help with aero-dynamics... diffusers should help, right?

The autoexe/seibon front looks like it would actually worsen the effect. Care to Share? Sharing is caring.

nuke0907 09-19-2008 02:12 PM

WTF are you driving 130mph for?

edit: i just noticed you said you get 130mpg.

czar 09-19-2008 02:39 PM

...still pretty sure he meant mph... i wouldnt know i havent gone that fast

Phil's 8 09-19-2008 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Musker (Post 2648215)
Have you noticed a difference in driving at high speeds?

At 130 mpg my car, stock with no appearance package, felt like it needed something to help with aero-dynamics... diffusers should help, right?

The autoexe/seibon front looks like it would actually worsen the effect. Care to Share? Sharing is caring.

I believe that MM tried that and found that it is not sturdy enough. At 153 MPH the car becomes airborne on a straight line, so be careful going above 120 MPH

Musker 09-19-2008 03:03 PM

Yeah the car didn't feel very stable , per se, at 130, and, although I like the look of the auto-exe diffuser, it just looks aerodynamically like it'd create a dam right here:

http://i35.tinypic.com/255l0yx.jpg

Obviously, if it makes it worse than stock, I don't want it no matter how good it looks.

I'm just asking owners of this diffuser, or the amemiya one, if they can tell a difference for the good or the bad.

Thanks.

chickenwafer 09-19-2008 03:57 PM

For me, the car gets a little loose around 125ish, then once you stay in and get past 135 is hunkers down and stays put. I've had it past those speeds and you run out of RPM before the car goes airborne, LOL

Rotr8 09-19-2008 04:00 PM

I have the Burnout and at 146mph I felt fine,,, spliters act to split the air before it goes under you car to create a better pressure zone for the it to pass undereath the rest of the car...

alnielsen 09-19-2008 06:02 PM

My car felt fine at 125. At 135 the front felt light and I backed down. Lowering springs should keep air from building up under the car and causing lift.
I like the Autoexec front defuser. VIS Racing sells a replica that I may get.
http://www.visracing.com/newcatalog/...duct_info.html

Rotr8 09-19-2008 10:11 PM

uggghh no dodnt get the VIS, horrible product, det it from Siebon, its will still be a replica but its much better in quality.....

swoope 09-19-2008 10:33 PM

burnout front lip. from evo-r. the light feeling from 132 to 138 is gone..

beers :beer:

paulmasoner 09-19-2008 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by Phil's 8 (Post 2648310)
I believe that MM tried that and found that it is not sturdy enough. At 153 MPH the car becomes airborne on a straight line, so be careful going above 120 MPH

seriously? i've been in the mid 150's and not in a straight line(not straight for those speeds) and had no issues. My Shinka is slightly more stable above 120 than other models i've driven hard, but still gets a bit uneasy over 135-140.... fwiw as stated i have the Shinka all stock susp.

imput1234 09-19-2008 11:47 PM

I've been 138 and never felt that feeling, stock exterior

swoope 09-19-2008 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by imput1234 (Post 2649177)
I've been 138 and never felt that feeling, stock exterior

stock suspension???

that is also a factor..


beers :beer:

imput1234 09-19-2008 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by swoope (Post 2649182)
stock suspension???

that is also a factor..


beers :beer:

yup, that was like a week after I bought the car bone stock

shaunv74 09-20-2008 12:08 AM

At 125 mph it feels good to me even in a high speed sweeper. The only issues I've had are breaking hard from that speed the back end gets really light (for obvious reasons) and wiggles a little.

Full disclosure: I had the Espelir springs on the car at the time so the car was 1.25" lower. That should make a significant difference at speed.

Musker 09-20-2008 08:50 AM

The burnout lip looks like it would work better, but doesn't look as good :P

Decisions, decisions... -_-

Phil's 8 09-20-2008 10:12 AM

I was not saying that the car was unstable or airborne at speeds under 153 just to be careful. I find that my 8 with RB springs, Koni shocks and RB sways really handles well at sustained high speeds ether in a straight line or cornering. My 8 is very dangerous at speed above 150 mph and at 153 can be moved by a lite gust of wind - I would call that airborne. That is the maximum speed I have seen in my 8 and will admit that there was not very much left in it. I feel that just using one of those bolt on deflectors is not a fix for speed issues but just for looks.

Rotr8 09-20-2008 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Musker (Post 2649460)
The burnout lip looks like it would work better, but doesn't look as good :P

Decisions, decisions... -_-

Look at the authentic Burnout Version II it looks much better than the Version I which is what the Evo-R is, it cost alot more too, and took 3 moths to get here, but it was well worth the wait....

Also- pertaining to the high speed discussion I have
Tien Flex's with a 2" drop
AutoExe Undercar bracing
MS Strut Tower Bars
RB Sways, w/ fr end links
The 2" drop really does help........

SayNoToPistons 09-22-2008 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Phil's 8 (Post 2649505)
I was not saying that the car was unstable or airborne at speeds under 153 just to be careful. I find that my 8 with RB springs, Koni shocks and RB sways really handles well at sustained high speeds ether in a straight line or cornering. My 8 is very dangerous at speed above 150 mph and at 153 can be moved by a lite gust of wind - I would call that airborne. That is the maximum speed I have seen in my 8 and will admit that there was not very much left in it. I feel that just using one of those bolt on deflectors is not a fix for speed issues but just for looks.

I think you're officially the fastest 4 port AT rx8...

Easy_E1 09-22-2008 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 2651641)
I think you're officially the fastest 4 port AT rx8...

I agree with that.
Mine feels fine at 125 with the Espelir springs on it.

Phil's 8 09-22-2008 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 2651641)
I think you're officially the fastest 4 port AT rx8...

I know of at least one maybe two 6 port 8s that have gone a little faster but had the same results as far as stability.

savedsol 09-22-2008 03:36 PM

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Legsport - actually raced in Japan

Musker 09-22-2008 06:31 PM

But to find it for sale. Now THAT's the tricky part.

kersh4w 09-22-2008 07:41 PM

contact japanparts

olddragger 09-23-2008 11:03 AM

i have the yellow konis, tein h springs rb bars and end links. i have a stock front--no appearance kit. No rear spoiler. My car (on the track) does get a little light in the front over 130mph. its a subtle feeling --just does not feel as planted like at 120 and below. the 2009's have more under body paneling and i have been wondering about that.
I just dont want to invest a lot to solve this as the time spent at 130+ is very small. Most times on the track you are not above 100mph.
I have only been on Roebling Road in Savannah since I installed the Pettit system and my debut at Road Atlanta and it's much longer straightaway has me a little concerned. I est at least a 145mph top speed on the back straight. I really dont know if i want to take it that high. You have to brake hard to enter the next turn--a 90 degree one-- and believe me, at 130+ things change.
I am also a little concerned in blowing out the front airdam undertray.
would splitters and or front lip help me noticeably?
follow this thread with interest
olddragger


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