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jtabraham 02-14-2011 02:22 PM

Bixenon HIDs????
 
hey. so i wanted to turn my headlights bixenon. is it possible?
and how would u do it. Do i just buy a new kit or do hav to get a new projector?

And i did search. didnt really come up with anything good.

Thanks

Aipex8 02-14-2011 02:40 PM

You will have to swap the projectors with bi-xenon projectors. There are several different projectors you can buy. Check http://www.theretrofitsource.com/ind...nec4763rpknrgb. I've tossed the idea around, but haven't done any serious research and I don't think anyone else has tried this. It will require opening your headlights and retrofitting new projectors in. Major undertaking but would be damn cool if done right.

jtabraham 02-15-2011 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Aipex8 (Post 3880996)
You will have to swap the projectors with bi-xenon projectors. There are several different projectors you can buy. Check http://www.theretrofitsource.com/ind...nec4763rpknrgb. I've tossed the idea around, but haven't done any serious research and I don't think anyone else has tried this. It will require opening your headlights and retrofitting new projectors in. Major undertaking but would be damn cool if done right.

ya i was planning on taking the headlight apart and painting it. So the High beans would be worthless. and this is wat i was thinking of doin. but would all projectors fit?

jtabraham 02-15-2011 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Odula (Post 3882352)
Hi, I have Bi-Xenon on my Mazda Rx-8 2007.
The kit consists of:
2 - HID ballast
4 - lamp, H7-H9

Super light, but have one flaw when running the beam are not as warm light is weak. As you know needs a few seconds to shine light in full force.
No need to be transformed into anything and you can always go back to the sta

I do not like the Bi-Xenon H4!

So did ur car already come with those. or did u just buy a new ballast. and does the bulb size matter. is it going to fit since the oem is different. and do u got any pics of wat u did.
THanks

Aipex8 02-15-2011 05:47 PM

It sounds like he just added two HID kits to the halogen model 8. He added a H7 and H9 kit, that's why it takes a few seconds to warm up when he turns the high beams on. Not a true bi-xenon setup, just dual HID kits. Odula, bi-xenon headlights use a single projector / single HID bulb with a moveable cutoff shield to allow more light out of the projector when the high beams are on.

As far as which projectors would fit, I'm afraid I don't know that. I doubt any would be a direct drop on fit, and some fabrication would be involved.

Odula 02-16-2011 05:45 AM

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paimon.soror 02-16-2011 06:22 AM

uhh ... thats not a true bi-xenon kit ^^

That looks like it is nothing more than two bulbs that link up to a switch that leads to the igniter/ballast. It would still take some time to charge up a separate bulb for high beams, while true bi-xenon's do not interrupt light output when switching to highbeams since it is only one bulb.

And btw, are you using a translation software of sort...

Also, why would you design something that has 2 bulbs per side for the H4 which is a single bulb application??

paimon.soror 02-16-2011 10:30 AM

http://www.xenonvalot.com/xpic/h4_dual_hylow_anim.gif

Above is an example of a Bi-Xenon H4 bulb. As you can see, one bulb operates under High beam and Low beam. When switching to Highbeam, the light itself moves to a different spot, manipulating cutoff and light output.

paimon.soror 02-16-2011 11:11 AM

Definition :

Bi-Xenon Headlights refers to HID (High Intensity Discharge) Xenon headlights that offer both low (dipped) and high (main) beam lighting from a dual headlight system (as opposed to a quad headlight system).

Read more: Bi-xenon Headlights - Wikicars
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution


Your kit is a QUAD bulb kit, please get your facts straight.

Aipex8 02-16-2011 11:20 AM

In production D2S based HID systems, the cutoff shield inside the projector moves, not the bulb. The site I linked to sells OEM and after market bixenon projectors, the high beam wires connect to a solenoid that moves the cutoff shield. I wouldn't bother with any other type of setup.

Aipex8 02-16-2011 11:24 AM

Odula, your setup is not bixenon. You setup uses 4 bulbs, correct? That by definition is not bixenon.

Aipex8 02-16-2011 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Odula (Post 3883380)
I respect your opinion. But my understanding is another. The very name speaks for itself.
Xenon = Hi
Bi-Xenon = Hi / Lo
I have xenon light Hi / Lo.

I also think that my model is better than H4! For me there is no loss of low beams and have strong long. H4 mode Hi-Lo = bad Hi-Lo

I'm sure you see for the first time this kit! I thought it would be interesting for you.

Okay, you can have your opinion, but this thread is discussing true, two bulb, D2S, moveable cutoff shield in the projector, OEM style bi-xenon. Thanks for the input but the OP is asking about converting his current HID system to bi-xenon. And I repeat, not the cheesy H4 moving bulb or two bulb on one base pseudo-bixenon, but a real projector based system.

Click the link in my first response here, it has nothing to do with bulbs, or kits, or H4. It's projectors only. I'm talking about removing the existing projector and replacing with a new projector and using the stock D2S bulbs and ballasts.

Odula 02-16-2011 01:40 PM

Aipex8, I realized!
Good luck to jtabraham!

paimon.soror 02-16-2011 01:43 PM

The reason why we have never seen a product like yours is because it is the most retarded thing we have ever freaking seen. First off, you must have made the product for the ghetto civic owners who slap garbage projectors on their cars because H4 housings have only one light output cone since H4 specs integrate high and low beams. Where the hell are the other two bulbs supposed to go. Next, how exactly do you plan on making this work for an RX8 considering our harness is not an H4...

Second off, the engineer who designed that set is a complete and useless moron. What idiot told you it was smart to run two bulbs off of one ballast. What freaking ignitor is on that system taht it can arc both lights???

Next time you create a product, do some research ... sounds like you were more concerned about showing people things "they have never seen before" rather than developing a product that wont torch smoeones car.

Odula 02-16-2011 02:30 PM

paimon.soror, how can you give an assessment of something not seen how it works? Who said my kit is the latest fashion? I got it from the beginning of 2007! If you think my kit is crap, that means Aipex8 sell junk! Because my deck is not worse than those sold Aipex8!

I'm not a salesperson if you do not understand!

There is no sense of malice!

Aipex8 02-16-2011 02:41 PM

Okay, let's all get along and get this thread back on topic. Does anyone have a pic of an RX-8 projector from an opened headlight? Post them up. I know there are some around the forum, I'm off to search.

Aipex8 02-16-2011 02:57 PM

A few pics in this thread:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ake+headlights

If I were to guess, I'd say this is your best bet for fitting a projector that is the same diameter as stock and will fit under the stock shroud:

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...nec4763rpknrgb

The Reverend 02-16-2011 04:06 PM

would love to see a full projector retrofit on our cars

i know there are people on this board that could diy it, it seems a bit out of my capability and i dont have 1k+ to pay someone to do it.

paimon.soror 02-16-2011 05:01 PM

I have a really good cutoff with my HIDs on my halogen projectors, its actually better than i thought, except I have some stray light above the cutoff that makes it look a tad messy. Only reason I want a retrofit is to get a more projected light as the distance through the Halogen lens is no further than a halogen bulb really. I am just too scared to tear open those $$$$ headlights lol

Odula 02-17-2011 07:34 AM

jtabraham, create a theme for the Bi-Xenon HID. I guess he wants to have Xenon Hi / Lo. Therefore I proposed my kit.
paimon.soror, Aipex8 - my kit is not Bi-Xenon. So I will put a link to the company of my kit (as paimon.soror, xenon for the ghetto). To see that I write about my model Double lighting Bi-Xenon 2 (2 ballast 4 bulb drive).
http://shoneche.com/light/en_products_02.htm
My kit 100% Bi-Xenon!

paimon.soror, read this! Site of GHC!

"Guang Her Cheng is becoming one of the leading manufacturer of HID ballast and conversion kit in Taiwan and enjoyed high reputation due to its low defect for OEM and ODM orders in global market such as in Asia, America and European countries etc."

Geto? Retarded?

jtabraham, if desired Bi-Xenon projector of this type which showed Aipex8. Okay

Aipex8 02-17-2011 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Odula (Post 3884284)
jtabraham, create a theme for the Bi-Xenon HID. I guess he wants to have Xenon Hi / Lo. Therefore I proposed my kit.
paimon.soror, Aipex8 - my kit is not Bi-Xenon. So I will put a link to the company of my kit (as paimon.soror, xenon for the ghetto). To see that I write about my model Double lighting Bi-Xenon 2 (2 ballast 4 bulb drive).
http://shoneche.com/light/en_products_02.htm
My kit 100% Bi-Xenon!

paimon.soror, read this! Site of GHC!

"Guang Her Cheng is becoming one of the leading manufacturer of HID ballast and conversion kit in Taiwan and enjoyed high reputation due to its low defect for OEM and ODM orders in global market such as in Asia, America and European countries etc."

Geto? Retarded?

jtabraham, if desired Bi-Xenon projector of this type which showed Aipex8. Okay


Thanks for the link, but it only proves a point, no where on that site is the term "bi-xenon" used. They call their kit "dual xenon" which is what I referred to your setup as in the beginning.

The term Bi-Xenon was created by auto manufacturers and there are NO auto manufacturers that use a two bulb system. The reason for this, and the reason that I would recomend against a system like yours, or adding a second HID kit for the high beams is that typically when in a situation that requires high beams, you are turning them off and on over and over as other cars come down the road. Turning an HID bulb off before it is warmed up is very bad for it and will significantly shorten the life of the bulb.

Don't get me wrong, I believe your kit has dual xenon, xenon for hi and low and all that, but that doesn't make it "bi-xenon." In the end, you can call it whatever you like, but arguing about it over and over is getting old and derailing this thread.

Odula 02-17-2011 12:41 PM

Why attend in the name of the kit, Bi-Xenon? The models are different. If you do not pay attention!

That the name of the Bi-Xenon Producers set of two ballast - 2 lamps not mean that the provision of kit Hi / Lo on another principle, not was Bi-Xenon! Do not argue, from where it started and + / -.

Bi-Xenon = Hi / Lo. That's the idea.

+ / - Is a separate issue!

I will tell you that I have set since 2007 and today it worked without a problem. Saint perfect Hi / Lo, 2007-2011 year. No need to change bulbs / ballasts 2007-2011 time. You must ask yourself what is happening in this ballast to avoid ruining bulbs?
If you install two sets will be the same! Then you're worried about bulbs.
In my kit has provided fire!
Consider how you will work if installed two sets. Whenever starting Lo run two ballast. Here are now shortens the life of bulbs.

You can comment on. Without attack

paimon.soror 02-17-2011 01:26 PM

Lol my favorite two parts of his translation software:



"In my kit has provided fire!"

"xenon for the ghetto"


Good luck Aipex

Odula 02-17-2011 01:56 PM

paimon.soror, you're sick! Having nothing to say, keep quiet! How many languages are you talking about? Communicating mine? I am glad that not everybody in ClubRX8 like you. If a foreigner in my country wrote in the forum and someone made fun of errors! He who laughs will get a bad attitude by all! You have no education!

Odula 02-17-2011 02:14 PM

In my kit has provided winking! So Do you like? If it is not good sorry:)

I use a translator to quickly and easily! Do not hide.


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