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TOFUDRIFTER 03-30-2011 01:09 PM

Rotarys Oil
 
I couldnt find any threads relating to this topic, but if there is an existing one i apologize.

Anywho, my question regards the proper oil to use with a rotary engine, i know synthetic is a very thin oil and can cause older engines to leak like crazy.
So im curious if this would cause a problem with the rotary, apex seal leaks, or general leaks.

Any imput, experience, or street smarts would be much appreciated.

-TOFUDRIFTER

alnielsen 03-30-2011 01:11 PM

No body flame the noob.

With the modest bit of looking around or spending some time here, you would find that twice a week someone is starting a new thread about what kind of oil am I to use in my car.
There is already too much information posted to sum it up in one reply. Anything beyond using what is recommended by Mazda is taking an educated guess. And, there are many here that are very experienced and rotary educated.

Speed_8 03-30-2011 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3928983)
No body flame the noob.

lol, go to google.com in the search field type in as follows site:rx8club.com what oil should I use

its far better then this sites search

9krpmrx8 03-30-2011 01:48 PM

Really? Seriously? Come on Al, can't I please ????????!!!!!!!

alnielsen 03-30-2011 01:55 PM

It's in the rules, no.

I'm sure there is something in the links that your are providing in your signature that will be of use to the OP.

9krpmrx8 03-30-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3929026)
It's in the rules, no.

I'm sure there is something in the links that your are providing in your signature that will be of use to the OP.

Geesh, ok :)

bse50 03-30-2011 02:11 PM

Can we change the rules, Al?

alnielsen 03-30-2011 02:14 PM

Talk to the Admins. I'm betting the answer will be no.

bse50 03-30-2011 02:27 PM

:( how are we supposed to have fun now that nobody opens interesting threads but it's all about the mpg\oil\fuel\bad idle?
I want a sandbox and some tools to play in! :)

alnielsen 03-30-2011 02:33 PM

Make up parody threads about mpg\oil\fuel\bad idle in the Lounge and make up funny answers. There will be people that won't have a clue that you are being funny and try to get all serious. Then you have fun with them.
That's what the Lounge is for. The Tech area is for serious discussion.

bse50 03-30-2011 02:34 PM

So are you moving this to the lounge? :)

alnielsen 03-30-2011 02:35 PM

No, and I expect you to be using your best behavior young man.

bse50 03-30-2011 02:42 PM

I'm just bored, without an arm everything is boring. You can't drive, wrench, hump, workout etc.
I will behave politely anyway, wiseman ;)

terch1 03-30-2011 03:57 PM

All these rules are leading to some boring posts. I'm going to go take a nap.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

JUNKyardHOE 03-30-2011 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3929026)
It's in the rules, no.

I'm sure there is something in the links that your are providing in your signature that will be of use to the OP.


I am just curious where these rules are located? I looked a little but couldn't find them (granted I didn't look very hard :cwm27:)

laythor 03-30-2011 05:34 PM

https://www.rx8club.com/faq.php?faq=forum_rules

laythor 03-30-2011 05:35 PM

and to the OP, this is how you search here, it's better, faster, and easier to use then the built in search

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Arx8club....l+should+i+use

Speed_8 03-30-2011 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by JUNKyardHOE (Post 3929212)
I am just curious where these rules are located? I looked a little but couldn't find them (granted I didn't look very hard :cwm27:)

:pokeowned

laythor 03-30-2011 05:39 PM

i'm being super nice cause my evil twin flamed a noob just the other day

Speed_8 03-30-2011 05:50 PM

lol I can see, I'm some what of a noob aswell, but I've been flamed enough to search now haha,

laythor 03-30-2011 06:11 PM

this is the kinder, gentler rx8club.

Speed_8 03-30-2011 06:14 PM

:grouphug:

gwilliams6 03-30-2011 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3928983)
No body flame the noob.

With the modest bit of looking around or spending some time here, you would find that twice a week someone is starting a new thread about what kind of oil am I to use in my car.
There is already too much information posted to sum it up in one reply. Anything beyond using what is recommended by Mazda is taking an educated guess. And, there are many here that are very experienced and rotary educated.

I have 38 yrs and over a million rotary miles under my belt, on the track and on the street. Hey guys and gals, everyone should know you don't use ANY synthetic oil in your Rotary engine, Synthetic oil will not mix with the gas inside your engine and combust . Good ole Dino oil injected to lube the seals will mix , and is combustible and will be burned and exit via your exhaust. If you use synthetic oil for long, get ready for an engine repair. Use the 5W-20 for most climates. You can use a 10W-20 for hotter climates or racing.

Back in the ole days we did use Amsoil synthetic oil for our Race RX7s, but we rebuilt the engines at the end of the race season anyway. Now you have good premix from people like Pettit racing, to help the engines stay lubed and last. And the premix will combine with your gas and properly combust.

laythor 03-30-2011 06:49 PM

let's not get the noob into his first Dyno vs Synthetic arguement right off the bat.

csl 03-30-2011 08:36 PM

end of story

http://mkimg.bmcdn.jp/minkara/note/0...1437513/p1.jpg

REDRX3RX8 03-30-2011 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by gwilliams6 (Post 3929342)
I have 38 yrs and over a million rotary miles under my belt, on the track and on the street. Hey guys and gals, everyone should know you don't use ANY synthetic oil in your Rotary engine, Synthetic oil will not mix with the gas inside your engine and combust . Good ole Dino oil injected to lube the seals will mix , and is combustible and will be burned and exit via your exhaust. If you use synthetic oil for long, get ready for an engine repair. Use the 5W-20 for most climates. You can use a 10W-20 for hotter climates or racing.

Back in the ole days we did use Amsoil synthetic oil for our Race RX7s, but we rebuilt the engines at the end of the race season anyway. Now you have good premix from people like Pettit racing, to help the engines stay lubed and last. And the premix will combine with your gas and properly combust.

This forum is so redundant, that Only Leesha has anything creative anymore!

I mean I've bean a trolling to my hearts content for several weeks, and I got my car hooked up from all the info that was given up 2 years ago, and those guys got bored and left.

We just can't help anyone anymore with silly ideas like this nonsense!

REDRX3RX8 03-30-2011 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by TOFUDRIFTER (Post 3928980)
I couldnt find any threads relating to this topic, but if there is an existing one i apologize.

Anywho, my question regards the proper oil to use with a rotary engine, i know synthetic is a very thin oil and can cause older engines to leak like crazy.
So im curious if this would cause a problem with the rotary, apex seal leaks, or general leaks.

Any imput, experience, or street smarts would be much appreciated.

-TOFUDRIFTER

Oh, and WOW! I forget! Don't anyone use any machine oil. I mean there's even 000 weight grease instead of a 1 or 2 lithium.

If you want something sticky use something with tallow, yes animal fat is in some lubricants for like a steam engine. Anyone remember those? :Freak_ani

csl 04-01-2011 06:26 AM

I like this thread :lol2: :lol2:

http://image.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/i/j/map-s_k001-w0-031
http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/commodit...001_na_oil.jpg
http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/commodit...01_new_oil.jpg
http://www.knightsports.co.jp/blog/oil_5w30_4l_2.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...sandOil001.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6...lslargeon3.jpg
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/minkar...2339238/p1.jpg
http://revo-tune.jp/catalogue/img/241_0.jpg
http://rmagic2007.net/parts/products...in_large_image
http://rspantera.com/parts/parts-img/oil4big.jpg
http://www.ky-promotor.com/img/enjineoil.jpg
http://www.ky-promotor.com/img/oil_rx7.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1355/...d6b7b32919.jpg
http://www.speed-heart.com/oil/images/rx8.jpg
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/minkar...3286207/p1.jpg
http://mkimg.bmcdn.jp/minkara/parts/...3554623/p1.jpg
http://www.tempest-power.com/images/.../WS0002958.jpg
http://image.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/i/l/auto-craft_f2-re
http://www.gulf-japan.com/image_oil_...oil_ex_re2.jpg

Too many synthetic juice from various source, including Re Amemiya, Knighsports and other rotary specialist :puke:

xpingux 04-13-2011 03:32 PM

I....

did not know that.

redline86 04-13-2011 06:20 PM

Another oil thread?!?

Beautiful pictures BTW csl.

Ok here is my .02$

When I asked others with on their experience on Royal Purple's synthetic, Charles from BHR said that every rotary he disassembled where royal purple was used, there was little to no wear on the rotar housings. Also we know that the guys from BHR love their Eneos synthetic. Personally, BHR is well respected and I would follow any advice from those guys.


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