Note to Self-
Have EFIDude tools Check Want AP with editing software (Edited, I can not have it as I have not auditioned to purchase it) Add Want HymeeSoft Editor Hymee, where do I send my check? |
Paypal does it for me:
sales at performancedesign dot com dot au Cheers, Hymee. |
I much prefer the original - 'gorilla marketing'!!
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364204)
Note to Self-
Have EFIDude tools Check Want AP with editing software
Originally Posted by Hymee
(Post 2364200)
There will be behind the scenes people to thank, and all that will come out in the wash. For now, I'll keep tight and concentrate on doing what I know - developing quality software. I am blessed that I am able to mix my profession and technical abilities with my love of cars, and a passion to learn.
Hopefully it won't be too long before my product is part of this shootout! Cheers, Hymee.
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364186)
I said this privately to Trey and now I will say it publicly. Anything Jeff says he knows about how a RX-8 PCM works came from Cobb. I doubt he did any of the Mazda reverse engineering himself. Jeff then tells the world how it is and how others are ignorant. Cobb stands by while he does this. You'll forgive me if I take offense.
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364186)
Give me permission to pull Jeff's tune from his Stage 1 work and I will post the exact fuel map changes so everyone can see just how much fuel he pulled.
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364186)
Anyone can do this provided they have good tools (like HymeeSoft, the AP or EFIDude) and an open and free forum to ask questions without being intimidated by people like Jeff. It really is that simple.
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364186)
Christian, Jeff is a professional that represents your product. He routinely uses gorilla marketing tactics to sell your product and you stay silent. I call him on the carpet once and all the sudden Cobb has something to say about childish behavior. That is a mighty high horse you are on pilgrim.
With the above said. I would like to contribute what I can to the education of the public. Here is a link to a FREE EFI 101 class, compliments of Cobb Tuning. I hope this demonstrates that I am not on any sort of high horse ;) I will be happy to field any questions as to how this information is pertinent to a rotary engine, essentially all engines are just air pumps and you do not need to own a piston engine to understand the principles of EFI calibrations. Take care, Christian. |
Originally Posted by Christian.
(Post 2364273)
I am not sure that you and I will ever see eye to eye, and I do not think it is beneficial to the enthusiasts if you and I continue this banter so I will stop, and focus on answering meaningful questions for end users and enthusiasts.
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Christian,
Speaking of helping, I tried to talk about the "difference" file approach and fear I've made a pig's ear of it. Could you please chime in? https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-engine-tuning-forum-63/reflashed-today-using-efidudes-138881/page4/ |
Changes in flow distribution from a catalytic converter is documented in the information TeamRX8 posted awhile back on the FIA race cats. It shows how distributions change in the cylinder filing and if thats changing then everything upstream is changing as well.
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Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2363178)
Lastly, neither has file editing right now so there is nothing to compare. The Cobb is supposed to ship a file editing capability for an extra charge. EFIDude is supposed to offer a freeware editor downloadable from their web site. I suspect the Cobb software will be much nicer but have nothing to base that on.
Originally Posted by Christian.
(Post 2364273)
If you really want to purchase something from us, then please submit the proper information about your professional tuning company, along with a purchase order, and we will begin processing the order. Christian.
Hymee, please do not tell me I have to audition for your product or otherwise have to provide a resume. I'll edit my Note To Self to remove the Cobb AP from my wish list. |
Too much " group psychology" going on around here sometimes ;)
Lemmings come to mind :D: |
Originally Posted by Hymee
(Post 2364200)
Even until very recently MM argued with me about the accuracy of the wideband we are all blessed with on our cars.
Feel free to cull through the threads and piece together a non-contextual argument to support that idea. I have consistently said the same thing and I will say it again here: The OE wideband does not read low enough to be 100% useful in tuning a boosted rotary application. If you want to apply the word "accurate" to that, feel free. The OE wideband also does not scale lambda output evenly at its extremes, but since it isn't useful there anyway, the accuracy of its scaling is not important. The OE wideband is not useful for tuning a boosted application. If useful = accurate in your vernacular, then I think we have other problems looming in the dialog.
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364186)
Christian,
Jeff is a professional that represents your product. He routinely uses gorilla marketing tactics to sell your product and you stay silent. I call him on the carpet once and all the sudden Cobb has something to say about childish behavior. That is a mighty high horse you are on pilgrim.
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364186)
I said this privately to Trey and now I will say it publicly. Anything Jeff says he knows about how a RX-8 PCM works came from Cobb. I doubt he did any of the Mazda reverse engineering himself. Jeff then tells the world how it is and how others are ignorant. Cobb stands by while he does this. You'll forgive me if I take offense.
If you ever have time, you can sift through the hundreds of hours of logs I've made of injector timing, ignition timing, airflow meter output and a myriad of other data points under every possible load condition. Then again, you would just steal the data, anyway.
Originally Posted by lolachampcar
(Post 2364186)
The car tested was just fine. Give me permission to pull Jeff's tune from his Stage 1 work and I will post the exact fuel map changes so everyone can see just how much fuel he pulled.
Since day one on this forum, your entire MO has been to establish your position in this market and to steal as much proprietary information as you possibly can. Talk about "gorilla". You want to be the 800-pounder and all you end up as is the elephant. Your "open source" tuning thread is just a preposterous phishing scheme. BTW - on the "Stage 1" tune, I've pulled almost no fuel at all. This is why most people are still in the high 11's at WOT. That tuning level only addresses drivability tweaks. The problem is dealing with various MAF tubing and its affect on fuel trim which is based on the ranges in closed-loop where I have trimmed fuel to reduce cruise load-up. Nice try at asking politely to steal, though.
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2364247)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_marketing
I doubt that definition is what he had in mind when he said "gorilla".
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2364247)
There's no reason to feel intimidated. It's well established that Jeff is an asshole.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 2364578)
I feel the same way but people seem to not get the point that tech is one thing and personal animous is another. I am done with it.
What's an "animous", anyway? |
Probably forgot the "ity" :lol:
The drama is entertaining.....and the information still comes out around the edges :) |
It reminds me of an episode of "Setup." 10 minutes of actual racing footage in between contrived situations meant to artificially create drama. That's the car show I mean.:)
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I see the first (on the forum) sale of a used Cobb programmer - there was talk of the unit being 'mated' to the ECU, to prevent one tuner programming all the RX-8s in town.....
Do any of you know if this feature made it to the final version? S |
If you return the ECU to stock..the AP uninstalls itself and can be used on a different car...
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The seller needs to plug the accessport to the car, and hit the uninstall screen. That will restore the car to factory settings, and allow it to be used by the new owner. Without uninstalling, the AP cannot be used on any other car.
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Originally Posted by Christian.
(Post 2364273)
Here is a link to a FREE EFI 101 class, compliments of Cobb Tuning. I hope this demonstrates that I am not on any sort of high horse ;) I will be happy to field any questions as to how this information is pertinent to a rotary engine, essentially all engines are just air pumps and you do not need to own a piston engine to understand the principles of EFI calibrations.
Take care, Christian. |
When you are done with that, read this:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/so-you-wanna-tuner-100333/ |
Originally Posted by Christian.
(Post 2363719)
WOW, I may have mistaken you as a professional. This sort of behavior is unmistakably childish. I hope I am mistaken and we can all continue these conversations as professionals. Otherwise, this will turn into another pissing contest that will do nothing but entertain a few.
Take care, Christian. Lola your remarks there are completely out of line. No more of that from you will be tolerated by me. 2nd if this Cobb customer is a customer of Jeff's why isnt he working with Jeff on dialing in his tune like others are doing? Is this car absolutely 100% stock? On the other hand Jeff- I have seen this now from a handful of Cobb users with your maps. Have you figured out yet why we may see these lean AFs on a select few cars? |
Originally Posted by zoom44
(Post 2364939)
On the other hand Jeff- I have seen this now from a handful of Cobb users with your maps. Have you figured out yet why we may see these lean AFs on a select few cars?
Come up with a comprehensive plan for addressing it? Sorta. The problem is that there are variables that I have to address incrementally. What I think I underestimated was the impatience of the people that have bought the thing. I've got 40+ of the APs floating around out there. 7 or so are "problem" cars. Of those 7, more than one of the owners seemingly refuse to contribute useful data. One way or another, I will address the issues, but I need some cooperation. I'll attempt to draft a procedure that is more "user-friendly" so that I can bring those problem cars under the wing, so to speak. |
whatever jeff did to my tune - it worked!
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thanks Jeff- thats what i gathered from reading
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Originally Posted by r0tor
(Post 2365010)
whatever jeff did to my tune - it worked!
It was just MAF calibration. the Maf curve is very long and very smooth. The trick is to tilt it one way or the other until it balances correctly. Then, the way it adjusts CalcLOAD will follow suit. |
awesome! just hope to po-po don't notice the magical fairy dust...:uhh:
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