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Old 03-17-2011, 06:37 PM
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The more "stable" it is, the less accurate it is.
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makes perfect sense LOL
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I got a really good idle with my maf relocation no adjustments made
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makes perfect sense LOL
I hope so.
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LOL

I guess you DON'T get what I was talking about

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There is a difference between granularity and noise.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
There is a difference between granularity and noise.


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I see the drinking has commenced.
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Heh
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My results
Before and after installing the Bret speed Maf

The proof is in the pudding

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^ Looks Legit
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^ Looks Legit
Totally . I need to get the Bretspeed marketing campaign into gear .
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wcs: torque curve looks awesome but it's a bit low.
Maybe you should run synthetic oil, that should help you out quite a bit.
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wcs: torque curve looks awesome but it's a bit low.
Maybe you should run synthetic oil, that should help you out quite a bit.
Synthetic Bretspeed oil !
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Does Bretspeed do premix?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
LOL

I guess you DON'T get what I was talking about



There is a difference between granularity and noise.
What does a stock graph look like and what is the significance of the accordion tube in the stock set up
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the accordion tube is just a flexible coupling.
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Originally Posted by rotarenvy
the accordion tube is just a flexible coupling.
Could the ripple in the tube be a factor in the design or has Mazda needed to add two extra screens in the flexible duct to overcome the problems caused by the ripples.

I guess Mazda was keen t us plastic to minimise heat soak associated with the use of metal
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wtf, it is insignificant
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
wtf, it is insignificant


I love it!!!
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Though that is true, I don't think it has really been discussed anywhere in depth, so the poster's misunderstanding can be excused.
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ripples in the intact track are never a good thing. You have to think of the inside of the intake ( from filter to combustion chamber) like streamlining. A lot of the the same principles apply.
Ripples in an intake will always be a cause of restriction and increased turbulence.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Ripples in an intake will always be a cause of restriction and increased turbulence.
I wouldn't say "always", but that is the principle.
That said, the inside diameter of the inner "ridges" of the accordion tube are slightly larger than the TB inlet, so its effect is completely negligible.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I wouldn't say "always", but that is the principle.
That said, the inside diameter of the inner "ridges" of the accordion tube are slightly larger than the TB inlet, so its effect is completely negligible.
The accordion ID is larger than the 3.5" OD of the main MAF tube, the TB inlet OD is 80mm (3.15"), and I would guess that the actual butterfly plate is probably less than 3" ID (never bothered to actually measure it)

so yeah, what he said ...
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makes sense-- i was just rambling on.............................


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