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Thommino 09-25-2005 11:05 AM

I look in european version and I cannot find switch at the bottom of your clutch travel.
Maybe it isn't installed! :-(


If I find it (Switch) I could connect red-green-white wire to number 1 wire of button with a "rubaccorente" (what you show me in picture). But in European Mazda Rx-8 there isn't the switch :-(

StealthTL 09-25-2005 01:32 PM

Euro.....
 
Yes, if you have a Euro version, you won't have the clutch switch.....we have to press the clutch in to start.

Your starter relay wire will be 'green/red/white' or the 'blue/white' right from the key to the relay.

Please post which it is when you find out....

S

Thommino 09-25-2005 01:56 PM

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look my clucth and the back of my start group, where is the wire that I need?

Thommino 09-25-2005 05:05 PM

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Lookind this picture It seem that I must connect number 1 of button to A cable of this connector. Is it right?
And where is this connector?

CERAMICSEAL 09-25-2005 06:42 PM

I don't mean to be rude but, are you sure you don't want to take this to someone more familiar with electrical work? Not doing so could cause you all kinds of headaches in the future. Just my 2 cents.

Thommino 09-26-2005 07:42 AM

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ok here a zoom on ignition connector

Thommino 09-26-2005 08:15 AM

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I think that the connector is this:


Somebody Can help me, where join the number 1 of S2000 button?

StealthTL 09-26-2005 12:45 PM

Found it.....
 
Thommino, it looks like you found the right wire....your last picture shows a blue/white wire in the ignition switch connector - you dont even need to cut into it, just push your starter wire into the connector till it touches the metal, to test, then put a proper connector in when you are sure. :)

US cars have different colors to the clutch switch, then blue/white to the starter relay, looks like yours is just blue/white all the way, simple.

S

Thommino 09-26-2005 02:49 PM

Great! It works. Thank you very much!

StealthTL 09-26-2005 06:59 PM

Another one "Buttonized"....
 
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As Homer says -
WooHooo!
S

otrovago 09-28-2005 09:08 PM

ok, I plan to do this so here is my question:

I want to have to turn the key, push the clutch in and hit the start button. But I don't want the key to turn the car on. Can this be done? If I understand correctly all I need to do is tap my wire into the blue/white wire at the clutch switch. And also where is the clutch switch do I need to remove any panels from below or should I be able to see it by getting underneath the steering column?

Does the S2000 switch have a light?

Thanks

StealthTL 10-02-2005 05:29 PM

No problem....
 
Clutch switch is at the bottom of the clutch pedal travel, see post #48 above for a pic.

Your proposed wiring is ALMOST right - the red/white/green wire at the clutch is the 'starter' wire, you would CUT and SPLICE into the other (blue/white) input wire, from the key. Then you would have it the way you want - need to depress the clutch, but the key won't work.

The S2000 switch has a light, but it has a little tinted cover that makes it very dim - if you take it to pieces to remove the cover it can get tricky, little springs etc. but quite do-able. :D

S

irfan 10-09-2005 02:41 PM

im tryin to do the same bypass, but with a remote starter. i already have the starter wires connected to the ignition harness (starter, 12v, acc and ignition) havent tested yet since everything is still apart. do u know what i woudl need to run to the clutch switch?

im guessing the start button doesnt need the acc/ignition wire since the key is turned anyways? so should i run the starter wire to the clutch? or since im already tapping the starter wire is the clutch already bypassed?

irfan 10-09-2005 02:46 PM

actually i see i connected the starter wire from the remote start to the W/L (white blue) at the ignition harness. should i instead run the starter wire to the clutch green/red/white wire?

StealthTL 10-09-2005 02:49 PM

IrfanGuy.....
 
Depends if you want to bypass the clutch push or not.

The Light blue/W wire comes from the key, the R/G/W goes to the starter relay, if you tap in there it bypasses the clutch switch.

S

irfan 10-09-2005 03:13 PM

ya i do want to bypass the clutch so the remote start will work without me in the car.

i''ll try taking my starter wire from the remote start and tap into the RGW wire at the switch... and i think this switch eventually sends a blue/white wire back up to the ignition?

i wonder how the actual circuit is @ the clutch? is it turn the key.. wire goes to clutch, if pressed in it connects the RGW to the blue/white.. then back up to the ignition? tho i dont see how this would actually bypass a clutch by tapping into the RGW.

StealthTL 10-09-2005 04:34 PM

Blue/White to start.....
 

Originally Posted by StealthTL
The LB/W wire comes from the key, then R/G/W goes to the starter relay, if you tap in there it bypasses the clutch switch.

One more time - R/G/W is to the starter relay.

Power from key, thru Blue/White, to clutch switch, R/G/W wire goes to starter.

S

nez 10-20-2005 11:41 PM

I DID IT !!!

Thank you :D :D

otrovago 11-04-2005 07:50 PM

pics...

WantedTwo 11-07-2005 09:41 PM

Well stealth, you'll be happy to know I did it with no problems what so. about 1 hr of work to include cutting the hole in teh radio pannel, thanks a bunch man!

Steakboy42 11-21-2005 09:53 AM

I think I recall that the new vette has only a fob that you keep in your pocket. As you walk up to the car, it unlocks the doors automatically. then you get in and hit the start button. thats my two cents about completely keyless start. If i were to do the start button mod in my AT, what differences would there be with the wiring?

-Steakboy42

BoosTED 11-21-2005 10:02 AM

Depends do you need to press the brake to start the car? (nevermind that is to put it in gear right?)
For the manual we have to bypass the clutch depress to start. You definitely wouldn't have to bypass that.

It should be easier for you, less wiring.

BoosTED 11-21-2005 10:05 AM

There are more and more cars adopting that system of the transponding card to unlock and start the car without having to have the key in hand.

I wonder how long the transponders last though. Seems like there should be a failsafe in case it stopped working. Backup key?

Steakboy42 11-21-2005 10:30 AM

I believe the batteries recharge via kinectics. That actually reminds me of a funny story. A guy locked his keys in his vette, not the C6 the one right before that, z06 i think. he called a company to unlock his car. when the guy showed up, he found the keys were still hanging from the ignition. so he walked up to the car and rocked it hard enough to make the fob on the keyring rock back and forth and the car unlocked. i bet the owner felt like an idiot.

so, i probably need to run the wire that the manual guys ran to the clutch to the ignition like euro manuals need to.

-Steakboy42

BoosTED 11-21-2005 10:45 AM

I don't see why you would have to send the bypass to the ignition.

The clutch press to start the car is a safety feature so it is not in gear when starter engages, car lurching forward.

When you start the car (automatic transmission) you just have to turn your key right?


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