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Williard 07-13-2011 02:22 PM

gutting the cat tonite
 
Okay so I just bought my 04 rx8 the cel is on. Come to find out the coil packs r bad. So I replaced em and the plugs and wires. Still the cel is on. So tonite im gutting the cat because the mechanics r telling me its clogged. One question. Though. What the hell is the seafoam treatment? And help would be appreciated.

Williard 07-13-2011 04:21 PM

non fouler mod?
 
Title pretty much says it all

cfm251 07-13-2011 05:22 PM

Im debating the worth of my stock cat. Last time I took it off the smaller 3" portion of the cat was smashed to bits, the bigger chunk after the sensor is still in tact. I was able to pass smog with the small portion smashed to bits...but since then I emptied out that junk and all that is left is the honeycomb after the o2 sensor. Would I still be able to pass smog here in CA with just that portion of the cat? I have the accessport so im not throwing a cell.

Dj-Trippwire 07-31-2011 05:47 PM

Any tips on removing the Cat bolts on the front 3 hole flange? I snapped the bottom bolt and i was loosening and tightening using a breaker bar cause it wouldnt budge. it got about 1/4 the way off and snapped the bolt in half.. Can i replace the bolts or what do you recommend?

Williard 08-01-2011 10:17 PM

I had the same problem man. Wd40 and patience gets you a long way. Yes you can replace the bolts

Dj-Trippwire 08-02-2011 06:15 AM

I called my exhaust man to see if he could just cut the bolts off. He usually does that for free on my cars and he told me my exhaust is under warranty. Im taking it to mazda (Already spoke to them) and their going to replace the Cat for free. Also good to find out that my engine is covered by the extended warranty as well.. Kinda made my day but changing the coolant tank i broke the radiator.. GD it

TeamRX8 08-02-2011 08:25 AM

Title should be changed to:

Gutting out my families future because I would rather be cheap, selfish, sh1t in my own nest bastage rather than spend $200 to protect a limited resource required for human life.

Shoreguy926 12-14-2012 10:26 AM

Gutted out mine,Used 1.5" pipe.., Test Drove her..Sounds Great and NO CEL :)

StealthTL 12-14-2012 11:12 AM

and NO CEL

yet

Shoreguy926 12-16-2012 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by StealthTL (Post 4396025)
and NO CEL

yet

Did throw a code, p2259,Which apparently is an Air Solenoid.. Not sure if its related to the o2 Sensor..But I cleared it and have to wait an see if it pops up again.. Didn't seem to show up lastnight while driving around..

xexok 12-16-2012 12:16 PM

The cel can take many many miles to pop up on some cars. I go 300-500 miles between seeing a cel usually but every now and then its on within 100.

amalay 02-25-2013 03:50 AM

Gunna do this tonight! Wish me luck! Ill try to post pictures of what I did. Hopefully nothing goes wrong.... BRB gunna get a can of redbull and gut the **** out of my CAT. :)

Shoreguy926 02-26-2013 05:24 AM

Its not hard to do.. I ran a 1.5" pipe threw the center of mine, Left what ever Honeycomb on Sides.. Only Code Im throwin is the 2559,Which I've done the Solenoid connector cleaning and it still throws it :(

wiesel42 03-13-2013 01:54 PM

Hey Shore, how's your 8.....did you ever get a CEL for the pipe through the cat?

Shoreguy926 03-14-2013 05:15 AM

Not yet,Just that Pesky 2259 for air solenoid.. A SLIGHT increase in Butt Dyno.. and around 4k you can hear her in Cockpit but sounds nice not harsh.. :)

DinSum 03-15-2013 08:51 AM

Hollowed my cat on the weekend, at first I didn't feel much increase and holy crap did the exhaust ever stink for the first two days. 5 days later the exhaust stinks a lot less and I can definitly feel the power increase :) I think mine might have been slightly clogged and it had some cracks running through the honeycomb filter

Car sounds even better, doesn't seem any louder then before with stock catback

MPG hasn't changed, it might go up with MM tune for no cat,

Exhaust temps went down a bit as well

Be prepared to change all three front studs with basic bolts and nuts, all three broke when taking the cat off, unavoidable even when heating them with torch first

To me the worst part of this mod is the smell, luckily after a few days the stink will come down but if you like to cruise with windows down you will be smelling awful exhaust when coming to a stop, or if the wind is pushing from behind you, maybe with a MM tune it might stink a little less.

paimon.soror 03-15-2013 09:03 AM

i actually dont mind the smell lol ... but then again, i enjoy the smell of pumping gas.

if you want to smell something ruthless, turn off the air emissions pump and turn the car on during a cold start ..... now that will make your eyes water like crazy lol

jamesf 03-15-2013 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by DinSum (Post 4440590)
Hollowed my cat on the weekend, at first I didn't feel much increase and holy crap did the exhaust ever stink for the first two days. 5 days later the exhaust stinks a lot less and I can definitly feel the power increase :) I think mine might have been slightly clogged and it had some cracks running through the honeycomb filter

Car sounds even better, doesn't seem any louder then before with stock catback

MPG hasn't changed, it might go up with MM tune for no cat,

Exhaust temps went down a bit as well

Be prepared to change all three front studs with basic bolts and nuts, all three broke when taking the cat off, unavoidable even when heating them with torch first

To me the worst part of this mod is the smell, luckily after a few days the stink will come down but if you like to cruise with windows down you will be smelling awful exhaust when coming to a stop, or if the wind is pushing from behind you, maybe with a MM tune it might stink a little less.

I had 88k on the clock when I changed my cat out. Never had been changed before. I doused each nut in PB blaster and with a breaker bar they came off just fine. Bolt is threadlocked, nut comes off.

DinSum 03-15-2013 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by jamesf (Post 4440622)
I had 88k on the clock when I changed my cat out. Never had been changed before. I doused each nut in PB blaster and with a breaker bar they came off just fine. Bolt is threadlocked, nut comes off.


I Also Used PB blaster and let it soak in for a good 3 hours, I think it might be because of the harsh canadian winters my car has been through its whole 9 year life :/

These bolts break for most people from what I been reading, if they come off easy consider yourself blessed :D

9kRotary_Venus 03-22-2013 01:48 AM

I'm gonna gut mine, but I just don't want a CEL. I heard that 2004 models don't really get that CEL for some reason. Is that true?

TeamRX8 03-22-2013 09:37 AM

definitely worth a bump ...


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4045369)
Title should be changed to:

Gutting out my families future because I would rather be cheap, selfish, sh1t in my own nest bastage rather than spend $200 to protect a limited resource required for human life.


BigCajun 03-22-2013 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4444262)
definitely worth a bump ...

While I agree with your general sentiment, i.e. clean air, the fact that we are driving internal combustion engines is primarily bad for the environment. I also think if you are suggesting buying a $200 cat, from what I've read so far, is they don't last. So how much industrial waste and pollution is being introduced into the environment by manufacturing sub-standard cats that will shortly be useless? Also some of our most favored trade partners, Mexico and China, are notorious polluters, therefore our buying large quantities of goods from them is exponentially causing more harm. So when I get around to installing my BHR midpipe I will have very few qualms about it. Just sayin.

wiesel42 03-22-2013 11:33 AM

What i did was, I went to Advance and bought a 2 1/4 in exhaust pipe....it comes about 18 inches longs for 8 bucks. Drove it through and cleaned the pipe out. Then bolted the cat back on. So far i've been 400 miles with no cel. It throughh a pending code once...but it went away on it's on and didn't trigger the light. I bought a new cat from advance for 235 bucks...i'll just put it on if i need it to pass emissions. Forgot to add if the pipe rattles just use some of that muffler putty stuff to seal around it at the inlet side.
I have a 2004 with around 81,000 miles on it..

DarthRX8 03-22-2013 12:08 PM

I don't see how anyone who owns a rotary vehicle can be on a high horse in reference to the environment...

sd1611 03-22-2013 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by DarthRX8 (Post 4444353)
I don't see how anyone who owns a rotary vehicle can be on a high horse in reference to the environment...

Truer words have never been spoken!!


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