DIY: Disabling the Door Open chime
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rx8cited, I was talking about having to hold up the exterior door handle when closing the L/H door after pushing the door lock switch. Most Japanese cars I've had experience with require you to do this, otherwise the door unlocks when it closes. My L/H door on my RX-8 is like this. As I said in an earlier post, I can't use the door lock switch on the inside of my R/H door when the door is open, it just pops out again.
This new info from rx8cited indicates there is a difference in the way that the doors lock b/w RX-8 models in different markets. REGARDLESS, doing this mod will not change the way your doors lock. Whatever lock behaviour you have pre-mod, you will have post-mod. Just be aware that disabling the key reminder chime may result in you locking the keys in if you don't use the fob to lock your car. This is not an issue for me however, I can't do it on my car! I suspect (nothing is certain now!) that all RHD cars will act the same as mine.
It appears that us RHD owners win one, and lose one. We can't lock the keys in when exiting from the drivers door, but we can't do as my Canadian buddy does, and lock the doors with the engine running to do a quick errand and avoid a flood........
Having made that generalisation, maybe the Americans can't do it either! You all know where to post your findings when you find out...........
Regards, Gomez.
This new info from rx8cited indicates there is a difference in the way that the doors lock b/w RX-8 models in different markets. REGARDLESS, doing this mod will not change the way your doors lock. Whatever lock behaviour you have pre-mod, you will have post-mod. Just be aware that disabling the key reminder chime may result in you locking the keys in if you don't use the fob to lock your car. This is not an issue for me however, I can't do it on my car! I suspect (nothing is certain now!) that all RHD cars will act the same as mine.
It appears that us RHD owners win one, and lose one. We can't lock the keys in when exiting from the drivers door, but we can't do as my Canadian buddy does, and lock the doors with the engine running to do a quick errand and avoid a flood........
Having made that generalisation, maybe the Americans can't do it either! You all know where to post your findings when you find out...........
Regards, Gomez.
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Originally posted by Gomez
rx8cited, I was talking about having to hold up the exterior door handle when closing the L/H door after pushing the door lock switch. ..... ...... can't do as my Canadian buddy does, and lock the doors with the engine running to do a quick errand and avoid a flood........
rx8cited, I was talking about having to hold up the exterior door handle when closing the L/H door after pushing the door lock switch. ..... ...... can't do as my Canadian buddy does, and lock the doors with the engine running to do a quick errand and avoid a flood........
Got ya' ....... yet another difference - the US model does not require the exterior door handle to be held out during any sort of locking operation. Ours exterior handles pull out - do yours really pull up
? Also, only our drivers side door has a keyhole, don't have one on the passenger's side. Same on the Aussie 8's or keyholes on both doors?
By carrying two sets of keys (valet and fob for example), you could use the second key in the exterior door lock to lock the car while it's running I bet - would that help? Don't do this if there are car thiefs around :D.
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I admit I did wonder about how you held the handle "out" with a handful of briefcase etc........Yeah, our doorhandles are the same as yours!
...and we only have the keyhole on the drivers door, too.
And yes, you could lock the car with a second key......but who's gonna carry around 2 bloody keys! If you're like me, you'd lose both! And the idea was to QUICKLY fob the car locked and RACE in to do a QUICK errand.......not fumble through your pockets for a second key, scratch the door trying to fit it into the lock (been so long, I bet we have all forgotten how to do it!), and then have to do it all again trying to get back in, all the while getting drenched in a torrential downpour......
rx8cited, just bite the bullet, do the mod, never hear that bloody chime again.....it's not like you're ever likely to lock your keys in after all this unforgettable dialogue.:D
Gomez.
...and we only have the keyhole on the drivers door, too.
And yes, you could lock the car with a second key......but who's gonna carry around 2 bloody keys! If you're like me, you'd lose both! And the idea was to QUICKLY fob the car locked and RACE in to do a QUICK errand.......not fumble through your pockets for a second key, scratch the door trying to fit it into the lock (been so long, I bet we have all forgotten how to do it!), and then have to do it all again trying to get back in, all the while getting drenched in a torrential downpour......
rx8cited, just bite the bullet, do the mod, never hear that bloody chime again.....it's not like you're ever likely to lock your keys in after all this unforgettable dialogue.:D
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Originally posted by RX4+30Years=RX8
I have a better idea. Just wait until you're old as dirt like me and you won't be able to hear those high pitched chimes.
I have a better idea. Just wait until you're old as dirt like me and you won't be able to hear those high pitched chimes.
I wanna hear the chimes when I leave my key in the ignition or leave my headlights on.
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Originally posted by rx8cited
HUH, WHAT ..... WHAT CHIMES? :D I don't hear any chimes?
I wanna hear the chimes when I leave my key in the ignition or leave my headlights on.
rx8cited
HUH, WHAT ..... WHAT CHIMES? :D I don't hear any chimes?
I wanna hear the chimes when I leave my key in the ignition or leave my headlights on.
rx8cited
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Originally posted by Gomez
.......And yes, you could lock the car with a second key......but who's gonna carry around 2 bloody keys! If you're like me, you'd lose both! ....
.......And yes, you could lock the car with a second key......but who's gonna carry around 2 bloody keys! If you're like me, you'd lose both! ....
There's a reason why Mazda gave us 3 keys (at least in the US) - so we could loose two and still get in :D.
cheers,
rx8cited
PS: Experiment request: Try locking your door without pulling up on the handle - I can't believe Mazda actually has different locking hardware for different parts of the world.
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Originally posted by rx8cited
PS: Experiment request: Try locking your door without pulling up on the handle - I can't believe Mazda actually has different locking hardware for different parts of the world.
PS: Experiment request: Try locking your door without pulling up on the handle - I can't believe Mazda actually has different locking hardware for different parts of the world.
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Hey mate,
I've decided I wanted to do this mod to my car :D. But I want to have my cake and eat it too, so I'm going to add a switch to allow me select between mod/no-mod. I guess I won't be using my torque wrench for this one.
rx8cited
I've decided I wanted to do this mod to my car :D. But I want to have my cake and eat it too, so I'm going to add a switch to allow me select between mod/no-mod. I guess I won't be using my torque wrench for this one
. rx8cited
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Strewth, talk about dusting off an old thread......I'm choking down here!
Yeah, well I know you'll be happy with the results. I did this to my car when Adam was a kid and I have yet to find a single negative effect as a result of this mod. Let me know how it goes.....
Gomez.
Yeah, well I know you'll be happy with the results. I did this to my car when Adam was a kid and I have yet to find a single negative effect as a result of this mod. Let me know how it goes.....
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Originally Posted by Gomez
........ I've had a response from a Canadian forum member who is rapt with this mod. He can now lock the car with the engine running while he goes to the shops for a minute or two.....he lives in a small town (no thieves!). Normally, pre-mod, the fob is disabled with a key in the ignition. Post-mod, he leaves the engine running, fobs the car locked, and races in to collect his mail from the Post Office. ...........
Damit! No fob operation for me if the car is running.
Originally Posted by Gomez
....I can't do this on my car, the fob I have will only work when the key is in Lock or Acc.....
Originally Posted by Gomez
P.S......Now I know exactly where the connector is, I can remove/install it without any disassembly at all......on a RHD car...........
My whole reason for doing this mod was to be able to fob with the car running
. I'm glad I did not install the switch.rx8cited
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Originally Posted by rx8cited
Damit! No fob operation for me if the car is running.
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C'mon, how ? :)
Originally Posted by Gomez
P.S......Now I know exactly where the connector is, I can remove/install it without any disassembly at all......on a RHD car...........
I wish I was in Australia so you could show me :D. We're about to get a foot of fresh snow in the next two days. Okay, okay, I know someone from further north will jump all over that one.
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Originally Posted by rx8cited
Hey mate, please do tell how you do that? Are you talking about the key that plugs into the ignition switch?
I wish I was in Australia so you could show me :D. We're about to get a foot of fresh snow in the next two days. Okay, okay, I know someone from further north will jump all over that one.
rx8cited
I wish I was in Australia so you could show me :D. We're about to get a foot of fresh snow in the next two days. Okay, okay, I know someone from further north will jump all over that one.
rx8cited
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Originally Posted by rx8cited
I wanna hear the chimes when I leave my key in the ignition or leave my headlights on.
rx8cited
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In summary, doing this mod by disconnecting this connector does not affect the operation of the headlight reminder chime/buzzer. The only effect chime wise is the cancellation of the chime when the key is in the ignition, and the door is open.
This mod enables you to run the stereo with the door open, minus the annoying chime. I did this mod for another forum member recently and he was very happy with the result.
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All too easy.........now I tried to get the stereo to run without the key by shorting out the accessory relay contacts with the relay removed. This worked, but the clock was permanently illuminated, even with the stereo off and key out. Doing this also permanently powered the cigarette lighter and accessory socket....no bad thing IMO. If I can suss out a way to remove the backlighting power from the clock/info display, I'll be home and hosed!
The relay is this one where the tip of the key is....
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The relay is this one where the tip of the key is....
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All too easy.........now I tried to get the stereo to run without the key by shorting out the accessory relay contacts with the relay removed. This worked, but the clock was permanently illuminated, even with the stereo off and key out. Doing this also permanently powered the cigarette lighter and accessory socket....no bad thing IMO. If I can suss out a way to remove the backlighting power from the clock/info display, I'll be home and hosed!
The relay is this one where the tip of the key is....
Gomez
The relay is this one where the tip of the key is....
Gomez
that key you have? searching everywhere for key like dat....
looks excellent...
any pointers?
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That chime has been #&(#$)@(!! Thanks again!
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Where is the door switch?
(Copied from the Australian Forum, but this should work on any 8, I think.....!)
The chime is fitted to the RX-8 as a reminder to remove your key when you open the drivers door with the key in the ignition, it's also known as the key reminder chime. I like to occasionally run the stereo with the drivers door open...unfortunately the key needs to be in the ignition to power the stereo, and the result is unpleasant to the ear!
Okay, I could remove the instrument cluster and kill the chime.....but then the redline beeper and headlight on warning would not work. Turned out there was an easier way, anyway. Disabling the door open switch on the rear door would kill the interior (and exterior mirror ground illumination) lights, and I wanted to keep them functional.
There is a two wire connector on the ignition switch that sends a signal to the keyless control module when a key is inserted. I disconnected this and tied it back to prevent any annoying rattles.
Disconnecting this connector does a few things.....it stops the door open chime (hooray), it prevents the interior light and exterior mirror lights coming on when the key is removed from the ignition (this still happens when a door is opened, so no big deal), and removes the signal that disables the central locking remote ....ie you can now lock the doors (and open the trunk) with the fob remote while the key is in the ignition (Edit: With restrictions.....my car only enabled the fob in Acc or Lock, others have reported fob also works in "On" .....). If you have an alarm installed, it may affect its arming in some way, too.
Pics attached......
The chime is fitted to the RX-8 as a reminder to remove your key when you open the drivers door with the key in the ignition, it's also known as the key reminder chime. I like to occasionally run the stereo with the drivers door open...unfortunately the key needs to be in the ignition to power the stereo, and the result is unpleasant to the ear!
Okay, I could remove the instrument cluster and kill the chime.....but then the redline beeper and headlight on warning would not work. Turned out there was an easier way, anyway. Disabling the door open switch on the rear door would kill the interior (and exterior mirror ground illumination) lights, and I wanted to keep them functional.
There is a two wire connector on the ignition switch that sends a signal to the keyless control module when a key is inserted. I disconnected this and tied it back to prevent any annoying rattles.
Disconnecting this connector does a few things.....it stops the door open chime (hooray), it prevents the interior light and exterior mirror lights coming on when the key is removed from the ignition (this still happens when a door is opened, so no big deal), and removes the signal that disables the central locking remote ....ie you can now lock the doors (and open the trunk) with the fob remote while the key is in the ignition (Edit: With restrictions.....my car only enabled the fob in Acc or Lock, others have reported fob also works in "On" .....). If you have an alarm installed, it may affect its arming in some way, too.
Pics attached......
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(Copied from the Australian Forum, but this should work on any 8, I think.....!)
The chime is fitted to the RX-8 as a reminder to remove your key when you open the drivers door with the key in the ignition, it's also known as the key reminder chime. I like to occasionally run the stereo with the drivers door open...unfortunately the key needs to be in the ignition to power the stereo, and the result is unpleasant to the ear!
Okay, I could remove the instrument cluster and kill the chime.....but then the redline beeper and headlight on warning would not work. Turned out there was an easier way, anyway. Disabling the door open switch on the rear door would kill the interior (and exterior mirror ground illumination) lights, and I wanted to keep them functional.
There is a two wire connector on the ignition switch that sends a signal to the keyless control module when a key is inserted. I disconnected this and tied it back to prevent any annoying rattles.
Disconnecting this connector does a few things.....it stops the door open chime (hooray), it prevents the interior light and exterior mirror lights coming on when the key is removed from the ignition (this still happens when a door is opened, so no big deal), and removes the signal that disables the central locking remote ....ie you can now lock the doors (and open the trunk) with the fob remote while the key is in the ignition (Edit: With restrictions.....my car only enabled the fob in Acc or Lock, others have reported fob also works in "On" .....). If you have an alarm installed, it may affect its arming in some way, too.
Pics attached......
The chime is fitted to the RX-8 as a reminder to remove your key when you open the drivers door with the key in the ignition, it's also known as the key reminder chime. I like to occasionally run the stereo with the drivers door open...unfortunately the key needs to be in the ignition to power the stereo, and the result is unpleasant to the ear!
Okay, I could remove the instrument cluster and kill the chime.....but then the redline beeper and headlight on warning would not work. Turned out there was an easier way, anyway. Disabling the door open switch on the rear door would kill the interior (and exterior mirror ground illumination) lights, and I wanted to keep them functional.
There is a two wire connector on the ignition switch that sends a signal to the keyless control module when a key is inserted. I disconnected this and tied it back to prevent any annoying rattles.
Disconnecting this connector does a few things.....it stops the door open chime (hooray), it prevents the interior light and exterior mirror lights coming on when the key is removed from the ignition (this still happens when a door is opened, so no big deal), and removes the signal that disables the central locking remote ....ie you can now lock the doors (and open the trunk) with the fob remote while the key is in the ignition (Edit: With restrictions.....my car only enabled the fob in Acc or Lock, others have reported fob also works in "On" .....). If you have an alarm installed, it may affect its arming in some way, too.
Pics attached......