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Spinning Sushi 11-05-2007 12:04 AM

DIY: Better Flowing Intake Box (Similar to RB Intake Box)
 
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Now, people are buying the Racing Beat REVi Intake for an astonishing $336 dollars! You can create your own high flow air intake box with just a simple tool: A Philips screwdriver. Now, there's a lot more discussion on the Air Intake Box itself in this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/inside-air-box-129827/

How to remove the airbox you ask? GO HERE
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=144789

EDIT: REMEMBER TO RESET YOUR ECU! Some people claim that the idle somehow dropped or is rough. It will go away after about a hundred miles because the ECU needs to adjust to it. If you don't want to drive around like that for a hundred miles, do the ECU reset. This is recommended if you remove both the screens (what most people do).
Resetting procedure can be found HERE
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...32&postcount=3

Tools:
A Phillips Screw Driver
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Well, the first step is to pull up the airbox (does not have to be detached from all the intake hoses, clamps, and wires).
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Then you open it, if you look towards the end of the air intake box, you'll notice two flaps. They look like this:
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You'll notice 2 screws holding in 2 walls:
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Spinning Sushi 11-05-2007 12:09 AM

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You then take out the screw.
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Pull on the wall.
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And then you get this.
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Now, all you have to do is repeat the steps on the other side, close up the box, stuff it back into your car, and done :)

Spinning Sushi 11-05-2007 12:14 AM

For some odd reason, I can't use the [IMG] tags so there won't be any big photos. You'll have to click on the pictures to make them big.

gundarx 11-05-2007 12:53 AM

Thanks for putting this up! I was following the other thread and now I want to have a go at removing the two walls.

I've never opened my intake box yet but I would have wondered the same thing if I did as brought up by the OP in the other thread about the presence of walls concentrating airflow just in the middle of the OEM filter.

I also thought you'd have to destroy or at least damage a component of the air box to get the 2 walls out.

Spinning Sushi 11-05-2007 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by gundarx (Post 2126758)
Thanks for putting this up! I was following the other thread and now I want to have a go at removing the two walls.

I've never opened my intake box yet but I would have wondered the same thing if I did as brought up by the OP in the other thread about the presence of walls concentrating airflow just in the middle of the OEM filter.

I also thought you'd have to destroy or at least damage a component of the air box to get the 2 walls out.

Yeah, basically that causes a concentration of airflow to the middle of the filter. It also restricts the air from going through since the two sides of the filter will be rendered useless. If you look at Racing Beat's Revi intake box's design, it's basically the same as ours without the walls. Once you remove the walls, there will be more airflow hence freeing up some horses.

There's no damaging of the box at all, it's just two simple screws. Have you ever changed your air filter? If you have, you'll know how to get the box out. There are a total of four gromlets, two on the side and two on the bottom. You basically push and pull to get it loose, it takes some muscle :) Let me take a picture of it so you'll know what I'm talking about...

Spinning Sushi 11-05-2007 01:12 AM

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Here are the instructions on how to remove the airbox:

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gundarx 11-05-2007 01:35 AM

^ LOL at the anime disc. Thanks again for going into taking out the air box. My car just has 2,200 miles on the odo. so I haven't ventured into cleaning my filter yet.. plus it does look like some work to get it out.

Anyway, I've got Tuesday (Election Day) off work so that's my DIY day :)

I love how this is possible with the stock air box.. now I don't have to force myself into getting the RB Revi that removes:
1) the VFAD- hondas have VTEC, evos have active diff, AYC, etc.. I want this feature to stay (although arguably not important) LOL
2) one air screen (our engines, when new are already idling rougher than other gasoline engines)
3) my personal preference here- replaces the OEM air box cover which blends in well with a stock engine compartment with that of the RB.. I mean the rubber texture isn't even the same!

Spinning Sushi 11-05-2007 01:38 AM

Once you remove the walls, you will notice a better throttle response and the noise is a bit louder. Those walls are for resonance purposes, it will sound like you have an aftermarket intake system :)

Rx8urZ 11-05-2007 10:36 AM

ima do this on tuesday thanks se3p for the very detailed instructions...how much louder is it with the walls removed? can you get a recording of itif you have a chance..if not its all good thnx

chetrickerman 11-05-2007 11:10 AM

i will try to get a sound file on my phone of the inside, and then revving, but i suggest you take out both screens, my idle is more consistent now and is stable. Racing beat says you get 1-2 hp for every screen you take out. go ahead and try it, if it makes your idle bad, just put it back in. it only takes 5 mins.

Socket7 11-05-2007 11:28 AM

I might go ahead and do this mod. Why are these things in there anyways?

chetrickerman 11-05-2007 11:31 AM

do it, it takes 10 mins, just pop out the air box, unsnap the clips, replace the air filter (if needed), take out the walls, take off the horn, remove the screens, put back together, and re-install

rowteree 11-05-2007 11:53 AM

great post! seems extremely simple to do and i bet it will give you better air flow and sound. Ill do this when i get my k&n drop in filter

Tigerfootball 11-05-2007 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by chetrickerman (Post 2127191)
do it, it takes 10 mins, just pop out the air box, unsnap the clips, replace the air filter (if needed), take out the walls, take off the horn, remove the screens, put back together, and re-install

Please forgive my ignorance, but what screens are you talking about? and are they easy to remove?

chetrickerman 11-05-2007 11:57 AM

when you open the box up, look down the horn and you will see two screens. They are farily easy to take out, first, you unscrew the three screws around the horn, then pop the horn off the tube while trying not to break the little tabs that hold it on, then take that screen off, then while the tube is off, take a screwdriver and and pop off the other one. if this confuses you, when you take it apart, you will see, its really easy.

Asmoran 11-05-2007 01:09 PM

Awesome DIY


btw, what series is that? Looks like Konrad from Kyo Kara Maoh :D

chetrickerman 11-05-2007 01:15 PM

i gotta find out how to take out the VFAD, then it will always be open and have even better air flow.

Rootski 11-05-2007 01:18 PM

Well, at least this zero-power-gain is free.

rotarygod 11-05-2007 01:23 PM

I must point out that this does not make the stock intake perform like the RB intake since it doesn't deal with the single biggest problem in the stock box. That would be the bell mouth inlet on the air intake tube behind the filter. You'll notice that the bottom is cut off. This is because it hits the air filter. However this isn't good for flow either. RB's intake has a full bell mouth. It's just inside the filter.

Now saying all that, no intake gives much of a power gain so whether or not an aftermarket intake is money well spent is a subjective matter that each person has to make on their own. If keeping the stock airbox is your preferred method then I see no reason not to take the walls out of it. At least it's free!

Brettus 11-05-2007 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by chetrickerman (Post 2127157)
. go ahead and try it, if it makes your idle bad, just put it back in. it only takes 5 mins.

a wise man once said this - heh .
Anyway - now what you need to do is get the racing beat duct and remove your VFAD . If any intake out there gives a better result after doing all 6 mods below I'd be very surprised.

1 - remove baffles
2 - remove screens
3 - fit K&N drop in
4 - Remove VFAD
5 - Modify the VFAD to fit the duct - see link below
6 - Fit RB ram air duct

I've been running this setup for over a year now - apart from the 2nd screen which I took out about 3 months ago.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aftermarket-performance-modifications-23/racing-beat-duct-factory-airbox-97962/

shaunv74 11-05-2007 01:45 PM

I thought it was smart to keep at least 1 screen to help straighten the airflow over the MAF sensor so it gets a more accurate reading. Any thoughts on keeping 1 vs. removing them all? I'm thinking you should keep at least 1 to perform it's intended job. I don't think Mazda put these in just to make the car slower.

Brettus 11-05-2007 01:53 PM

I ran with one screen only for a year and one day found it was torn so took it out as well . Car runs flawlessly . There is a very slight stumble at idle every 10-15 seconds which I'm pretty sure was there before I did any mods .
I think Mazda put those screens in there to stabilise the airflow and give a more accurate reading for the Maf . Maybe it does that but I have not had any issues .

Gotian 11-05-2007 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by shaunv74 (Post 2127390)
I thought it was smart to keep at least 1 screen to help straighten the airflow over the MAF sensor so it gets a more accurate reading. Any thoughts on keeping 1 vs. removing them all? I'm thinking you should keep at least 1 to perform it's intended job. I don't think Mazda put these in just to make the car slower.



I removed both along with the lower portion of the air box and replaced it with a cone filter. The car is much louder and run very smooth, especially on these cooler days we are having in miami (not the coldest but mid 70's to mid 60's is very nice for the car.)

Ive had the car this way for more than a year now and its still goes strong.

Tigerfootball 11-05-2007 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Gotian (Post 2127439)
I removed both along with the lower portion of the air box and replaced it with a cone filter. The car is much louder and run very smooth, especially on these cooler days we are having in miami (not the coldest but mid 70's to mid 60's is very nice for the car.)

Ive had the car this way for more than a year now and its still goes strong.

Would you happen to have a picture of your setup and what cone filter you used?

Gotian 11-05-2007 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Tigerfootball (Post 2127457)
Would you happen to have a picture of your setup and what cone filter you used?

there are few members who have the set up, IM trying to design a more improved version of it, to block the heat better instead of just using the upper part of the box to block the heat. On the hot days it isnt really affecting the car, but i would rather block as much heat as possible.

Basically what I did was, I removed the lower portion of the box, removed the mouth inlet and screens and put a cone filter where the inlet is, now that its just the tube. I used a filter called power adder since they give you 3 different size adjustments (which the 2nd one will fit on the tube). So now I dont have to worry about the VFAD, I only spent 30 bucks for the filter, and 10 minutes of my time, and the engine sounds a hell of alot louder that it makes people think I have heavily modded the car.

I also track the car at autocrosses and it runs the car cooler than the airbox does in my opinion. (I've touched the intake tube after the runs just for the hell of it and my set up made it feel cooler.)

I will snap a pic for you either tonight or tomorrow.


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