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shadycrew31 08-14-2008 01:33 PM

DIY: Air Pump inspection & repair
 
I have not completed this yet once I get the air pump I will fill you all in.

Hi All If you are experiencing a high pitched buzzing noise on cold starts it is most likely a failed air pump. FYI my 8 has 100,810 miles on it and it failed now.

the easiest way to test it is to

wait for engine to be cold not started within 8-9 hours.

unplug the air pump unit located on the passenger side it is located right next to the strut it looks like a carbon canister. there is a black two prong plug on the unit itself that needs to be unplugged.

start the car the noise should have gone away and it should sound like your backfiring a little bit.

once the engine is started go around and plug the pump back in it should sound like a air mattress pump which is essentially what it is.

I will finish this install with a complete DIY if anyone wants it. a new unit costs roughly $270 so testing it first would be key.


DIY instructions for repairing the air pump bearing squeal issue:
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=45

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RX8UK 12-27-2008 04:04 PM

Hello,

I'm just in the process of my dealer saying i need a new air pump as he, "thinks" it's faulty....

I'd like to make sure it is so if you could complete this DIY in full it would be great.

Thanks

shadycrew31 01-12-2009 05:41 PM

did you follow all the steps for the testing that I listed above? changing this yourself is stupid easy. I did it in my parking lost in dress attire.

skrubol 01-13-2009 02:31 PM

Should also check the AIR fuse. It's a 60A, if it's blown, the air pump motor probably has a short or won't turn.

CompMan 01-20-2009 09:44 PM

Hmm, So this is why that happens everytime I start my car.

Damnit.

shadycrew31 01-21-2009 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by skrubol (Post 2814738)
Should also check the AIR fuse. It's a 60A, if it's blown, the air pump motor probably has a short or won't turn.

If the fuse is blown you wont have a high pitched whine.


Originally Posted by CompMan (Post 2826984)
Hmm, So this is why that happens everytime I start my car.

Damnit.

yep sucks dont it, I told someone it was my supercharger.

I'm looking at how to do an air pump delete.. the used one I bought has just failed on me.

CompMan 01-21-2009 11:46 AM

Does it increase hp at all with out it?

shadycrew31 01-21-2009 12:11 PM

it shouldn't increase or decrease HP. I have to look at the manual and see how the system is setup.

paulmasoner 01-21-2009 12:30 PM

removing the airpump wont increase or decrease your horsepower. its solely an emmisions thing. the purpose of the airpumps is to inject fresh/ambient air into the exhuaust stream during (cold) startups, it helps light off the catalyst in the converter in a more timely manner.

am22 01-22-2009 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 2827723)
removing the airpump wont increase or decrease your horsepower. its solely an emmisions thing. the purpose of the airpumps is to inject fresh/ambient air into the exhuaust stream during (cold) startups, it helps light off the catalyst in the converter in a more timely manner.

That happen to me too, and ever since the air pump has gone bad there is a lot of smock coming out of my exhaust when I start it up, until it heats up. I don’t know if I should change it or not.

CompMan 01-26-2009 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 2827723)
removing the airpump wont increase or decrease your horsepower. its solely an emmisions thing. the purpose of the airpumps is to inject fresh/ambient air into the exhuaust stream during (cold) startups, it helps light off the catalyst in the converter in a more timely manner.

So if I don't even have a cat it doesn't do anything :)

paulmasoner 01-26-2009 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by CompMan (Post 2836401)
So if I don't even have a cat it doesn't do anything :)

correct, air pumps SOLE purpose is to make the catalyst reach its operating temp quicker. EPA regs require certain "bad stuff levels" by a certain timeframe after the car is started. the airpump helps the cat get to the operating temp sooner to meet this time requirement for making cleaner exhaust

Brettus 01-26-2009 07:10 PM

Take the pump and the cat and toss them over your left shoulder . Get the AP to delete the codes and get some powa :)

paulmasoner 01-26-2009 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2836431)
Take the pump and the cat and toss them over your left shoulder . Get the AP to delete the codes and get some powa :)

+1. if your on a temporary budget you can do what Kane, myself, and i'm sure many other have done... get a piece of approx 3ft rebar or similar, a hammer. remove the pipe, remove the O2 sensor, punch out all the cat material(carefull its sandwiched in fiberglass) and replace everything. its not by any means good for flow etc... but it will immediately allow you to get tuned to run leaner since you have no cat to protect with dumping extra fuel. this can equal power and MPG

shadycrew31 01-26-2009 09:18 PM

I'm still going to see if there is a way to bypass it for track days.. as we have strict smog restrictions here in cali.

Brettus 01-26-2009 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 2836480)
punch out all the cat material(carefull its sandwiched in fiberglass) and replace everything. its not by any means good for flow etc...

me too and i'll bet ya it's as good for flow as just about any midpipe out there ....

shadycrew31 01-27-2009 02:16 AM

I don't think it would be due to the shape and size of the cat. if you were to remove it and have a shop weld a straight tube into it of equal size and shape then yes you'd have a mid pipe as good as any.

MaddHatter00 02-03-2009 05:26 PM

I don't know if this is the same thing but i figured I wouldn't start a new thread if it was. But, what is the secondary air injection system? Is that the same as the air pump that you all are talking about? If so, how do I fix it? I checked the fuse for the air pump and it fine. any help would be greatly appreciated. (Sorry if I thread jacked. Not my intention.)

skrubol 02-04-2009 09:13 AM

Yes, it's the same thing. Code P0410? Start with the OP.

Razz1 02-04-2009 09:26 AM

Shady, your air pump is not bad. They just make noise when they are cold.

MaddHatter00 02-04-2009 10:39 AM

Yeah its code P0410. A DIY would greatly be appreciated

shadycrew31 02-04-2009 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 2850881)
Shady, your air pump is not bad. They just make noise when they are cold.

there's different levels of noise. there's a soft whine which is normal and then there is the jet turbine which is bad.

MaddHatter00 02-04-2009 01:56 PM

did u buy a new pump or get a used one? where did u get it if it was a new one? part number?

shadycrew31 02-04-2009 02:02 PM

I bought a used one from greddy2greddy. new they are expensive as ish.

MaddHatter00 02-05-2009 10:10 PM

where's a good place to buy one? besides the stealer


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