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HockeyRX-8 03-06-2010 10:35 AM

Got my synchro saver last thursday....will be installing it today and will update later.

WTBRotary! 03-12-2010 12:37 AM

Alright so I bought Gh8st's old S.S. and i put it on fine but I have a problem or two and a few questions...

1) I started to grind 5th gear after I put it on, it seemed to not want to go in, like id have to push real hard to get it to go in which makes me think it was popping out, im not too sure so I adjusted it and hopefully it fixes the problem because Ive never grinded into 5th before... anyone have this problem?

2) Is it normal for the shifter to touch the bolt when in 2nd gear? I have some pics if you'd like (bad quality) but it might do some justice, its like the bottom of the shifter, the part thats flared a little, hits the bolt, it only does it in 2nd gear, this normal?

3) What do I do with the last boot to take off? do I leave it off or try and shove it over the S.S.

thanks guys, let me know... hopefully I can fix this problem

HockeyRX-8 03-12-2010 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by WTBRotary! (Post 3467545)
Alright so I bought Gh8st's old S.S. and i put it on fine but I have a problem or two and a few questions...

1) I started to grind 5th gear after I put it on, it seemed to not want to go in, like id have to push real hard to get it to go in which makes me think it was popping out, im not too sure so I adjusted it and hopefully it fixes the problem because Ive never grinded into 5th before... anyone have this problem? Sounds like you need to adjust it again

2) Is it normal for the shifter to touch the bolt when in 2nd gear? I have some pics if you'd like (bad quality) but it might do some justice, its like the bottom of the shifter, the part thats flared a little, hits the bolt, it only does it in 2nd gear, this normal? grind the top of the bolt down a bit?....idk...I have the afe ss

3) What do I do with the last boot to take off? do I leave it off or try and shove it over the S.S. install the synchro saver over the boot

thanks guys, let me know... hopefully I can fix this problem

:).

WTBRotary! 03-12-2010 01:05 AM

Can i have pics of the installed S.S. over the boot? because my screws wouldnt fit, or maybe I just have to shove them down harder or something...

as far as the adjuster goes I hope that was the problem, ill keep yall updated...

HockeyRX-8 03-12-2010 01:21 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2749/...9f932e64b8.jpg

cut where the circles are...then it should fit over it

Rotary101 03-12-2010 01:44 AM

sick, someone run me the price for this!

WTBRotary! 03-12-2010 12:05 PM

alright fixed, but now I have to sell it to help pay off a massive ticket, thanks for the help...

Gdawg522 04-18-2010 12:28 PM

How has everyone fit both of the shift boots over the syncro saver unit?? There is no way that the bottom most boot will fit without being heavily butchered. I tried the unit without the bottom boot but now there is A LOT of engine and tranny noise coming into the cabin through there. The bottom boot is responsible for creating a seal between the hole I believe. Let me know what you guys did. Thanks

PhantomRX-8 04-18-2010 05:07 PM

Has there ever been problems of the shifter bouncing out of gear?? Im sure thats fixed with an adjustment but Im just thinking that if youre doing some hard shifting, it might bounce back...

HiFlite999 04-18-2010 09:22 PM

Sorry, I goofed and put my answer to the boot and bolt issue with pics in a new thread in the tech garage:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/synchro-saver-install-issue-s-195520/

It took me a weekend to figure it out, but shouldn't be hard to copy, and the results are worth the work. Messing around, it's also very clear just how much noise is originating from that area of the car. For my final fitment, I filled up the empty areas around the shifter with closed-cell foam (mostly urethane house water pipe insulation) and it made the car noticably quieter than before.

(Maybe a moderator can move that thread over here where it belongs, sorry.)

pepe8404 08-16-2010 03:40 PM

can you pm me if you have any left for 07

TeamRX8 08-17-2010 11:45 AM

I helped someone else install this on their car. If it's jumping out of gear it's because you have the detents adjusted too far in and they aren't allowing the synchro to go fully into gear. Going overboard and adjusting it too far in will eventually cause more problems than it will solve. We didn't have to cut the rubber cover either. It's rubber and all you have to do is use enough force to stretch it into place. We installed all the factory rubber pieces on without modification. He has the OE shifter with stainless steel shifter cup and it doesn't rattle or exhibit any noise issues.

olddragger 08-17-2010 09:16 PM

will this work for the 09 trans?
OD

swoope 08-21-2010 01:42 AM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 3678221)
will this work for the 09 trans?
OD

what does the top of the shift plate look like?

beers :beer:

olddragger 08-21-2010 11:05 AM

tropozoid

Race Roots 08-24-2010 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 3678221)
will this work for the 09 trans?
OD

Yes I believe it does fit had one guy buy it, never heard from him again so I assumed it fit. If it doesn't I will take it back.

epikeddie 08-31-2010 09:15 AM

Hey Brice,

What's OEM bolt size again? I replaced mine with the longer ones you sent, but now I'm reverting back to stock and can't find my old bolts.

THANK you in advance!

Race Roots 08-31-2010 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by epikeddie (Post 3694446)
Hey Brice,

What's OEM bolt size again? I replaced mine with the longer ones you sent, but now I'm reverting back to stock and can't find my old bolts.

THANK you in advance!

Off Memory I cannot remember and I don't have a set on hand I can measure to tell you.

Did you already sell it or trade it? Try getting the old bolts from them

epikeddie 08-31-2010 08:06 PM

Can anyone help measure the (3) OEM bolts that hold the stock shifter?

Any details will be greatly appreciated. The new buyer can't drive his car if he removes the OEM bolts lol. I'll have to include these long ones in for him to use with the Synchro Saver.

flyinglizard 03-26-2012 08:48 PM

I just installed mine today and I love it. There were just a few issues with the install:

I could not fully engage 2nd gear with the provided "stopper" bolts. The bolt on the bottom left did not allow enough clearance so I used a bolt with a smaller head.

Also, in order to get rid of the excess tranny noise and fluid smell I had to seal off the bottom boot with RTV silicone sealant, since it requires cutting to mount the new bracket.

Once you get it properly adjusted the shifts feel nice and affirmative. Great product!

HiFlite999 03-27-2012 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by flyinglizard (Post 4222331)
I just installed mine today and I love it. There were just a few issues with the install:

I could not fully engage 2nd gear with the provided "stopper" bolts. The bolt on the bottom left did not allow enough clearance so I used a bolt with a smaller head.

Yes, I had the bolt problem as well and reported it here: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=195520

I'm both surprised and disappointed that 2 years later, it's still shipping with the same, easily corrected, problem. :dunno:

Race Roots 03-27-2012 02:33 PM

If you have an issue like that it would be best to email me or post in my vendor threads. To my knowledge you are the only two that have had this issue. I will look into it.

flyinglizard 03-27-2012 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Race Roots (Post 4223071)
If you have an issue like that it would be best to email me or post in my vendor threads. To my knowledge you are the only two that have had this issue. I will look into it.

With the 2nd/4th/6th gear plate adjusted all the way towards the back of the car, I couldn't even get it into 2nd gear. It would almost go in and then bounce out. With the smaller bolt head it settles in nicely against the properly adjusted plate.

I guess my shifter fork could just be bent a tad? Not every car is identical due to varying degrees of wear and tear and abuse :banghead:

Now that it's all sorted out I love it though! Thanks Brice.

HiFlite999 03-27-2012 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Race Roots (Post 4223071)
If you have an issue like that it would be best to email me or post in my vendor threads. To my knowledge you are the only two that have had this issue. I will look into it.

Post #153 and #161 above, in this thread you started for customer feedback. It's also mentioned in posts #102, #113, #116, and #117 of the thread you started in your vendor section: https://www.rx8club.com/mod-reference-info-103/syncro-savers-165552/

I believe this is not a problem with the Axialflow Short Shifter, only with the stock one. Many will not recognize that the shifter collar hits the bolt, instead of the shifter arm itself hitting the saver plate, before going fully into 2nd gear. You can see what it's doing with a right-angle mirror held down near the level of the plate.

Race Roots 03-28-2012 10:59 AM

I will be enclosing it with an extra bolt with a smaller head size for that position in the event the customer has an issue.

Thank you for pointing it out.

Kinky Unikorn 10-20-2013 03:25 AM

I've been reading through this thread and this seems like a great product, if I purchase this, would this mask my synchros problem already? Few months ago, my 3rd gear would grind in high rpm when shifting into 4th, took it to Mazda, they told me it was the brass rings that were wearing out and that I needed to replace my whole transmission and they would give me a used one for $2,500 with labor included -___-

I told them I'd check elsewhere, and I ended up using the Redline Transmission Fluid which prolongs the life of the transmission and it actually did! Helped a lot and I didn't hear it grinding anymore, just recently, I'm noticing it grind again, and was wondering if I buy this would it prevent my gears from grinding and prolong my transmission even longer?

Beodude 10-31-2013 05:15 PM

Things like that will only be a bandaid. That said, dealerships aren't exactly known to hit the nail on the head when troubleshooting problems. But it certainly can't hurt. Less pressure on the synchros is a good thing.

I installed mine a while back, and I enjoy it. I never did try and slam it in gear or shift faster than it wants to, but it's certainly an added piece of mind.

Danny Leblanc 11-06-2013 02:59 PM

Im gonna buy it this winter when im drop my tranny because my syncro of 2 and 5 is dead, im hope this save my next tranny XD

Kinky Unikorn 11-06-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Beodude (Post 4539872)
Things like that will only be a bandaid. That said, dealerships aren't exactly known to hit the nail on the head when troubleshooting problems. But it certainly can't hurt. Less pressure on the synchros is a good thing.

I installed mine a while back, and I enjoy it. I never did try and slam it in gear or shift faster than it wants to, but it's certainly an added piece of mind.

Thanks man, that is good to know. I'll probably see if I can pick one up come Christmas.

TeamRX8 11-06-2013 08:32 PM

I pretty much stopped blowing up S1 6-spd transmissions on drag-type 1-2 shifts once I installed one

It does prevent over-stuffing gears during hard, fast shifts when adjusted properly.



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TeamRX8 05-19-2020 12:01 PM

bump, anyone have a used one to sell?

ktec 07-03-2020 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4918899)
bump, anyone have a used one to sell?

Unless there is a solution to fit the inner rubber boot back on, I may remove mine. There were a few members that were against this product and called it inelegant for how the OEM boot had to be cut up. You're really claimingYou stopped blowing up transmissions because of this product?

dannobre 07-03-2020 01:48 PM

They work very well to prevent the over shifting that seems to break these boxes.


ktec 07-05-2020 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 4922825)
They work very well to prevent the over shifting that seems to break these boxes.

And is there a solution to getting the intact inner boot on? Or cut up is the only way

TeamRX8 07-06-2020 12:04 PM

it only helps if you’re slamming gears like 1-2 shift when drag racing, it does nothing else for transmission life otherwise


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