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ZoomZoomH 11-16-2005 04:37 PM

was the air mesh screen damaged during installation?

dmp 11-16-2005 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
was the air mesh screen damaged during installation?


Everything looked fine - I suppose i can remove it w/o too much trouble to check. I'll take a photo and post up; have you guys 'read the screen' for me. :)

Nemesis8 11-16-2005 04:46 PM

Pinched MAF o-ring maybe??

dmp 11-16-2005 08:25 PM

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here's the symptom:

http://www.d-mphotos.com/movies/dpembrx8idle.wmv

Everything is tight/snug...no visible vac lines, etc. The screen looks fine, as far as I can tell...wish I could get a better angle.. :(

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=63390&stc=1

ZoomZoomH 11-16-2005 08:28 PM

that mesh screen looks good

clean the maf?

valpac 11-16-2005 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Hotsauce
I've seen several posts where people have reset their ECU after installing the Revi. Why? ...

Gained 4HP after resetting ECU on my last dyno runs. Convinced me!

ZoomZoomH 11-16-2005 08:31 PM

btw i just watched the video, looks normal to me, i had the same thing when i had the stock intake, and once in a very blue moon mine will do that too, i wouldn't lose sleep over it :p:

dmp 11-16-2005 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
that mesh screen looks good

clean the maf?


14K miles? the thing 'looks' clean...I don't recall if it happened prior to the install. Now it does it just about non-stop, when warm. Every few seconds - 5? it'll dip down. On occasion it'll go way down, below 500 rpms. :(

truemagellen 11-16-2005 08:54 PM

hmm

dmp 11-16-2005 09:12 PM

on a hunch I plugged in the module which controls the VFAD...no change. Re-Reset the ECU, and things got worse initially. Now, at idle, it tries to die about every 30-60 seconds... :(

Nemesis8 11-16-2005 09:16 PM

Both dannobre and I have the RB installed, and he is coming down this weekend for R&R at my house. If you want, we can call you and tell you where we are and maybe the three of us could troubleshoot it...

dmp 11-16-2005 09:35 PM

Please, please, please!!!!! Maybe either of you has a scanner and could read the ecu for me? think that would help?

Nemesis8 11-16-2005 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by dmp
Please, please, please!!!!! Maybe either of you has a scanner and could read the ecu for me? think that would help?

Yep - we both have one

dmp 11-17-2005 11:16 AM

Excellent - hopefully we can track down the problem :)

BoosTED 11-22-2005 06:20 AM

I have the ram air duct connected to the stock box with a K&N flat drop in filter.

I had the same problem as dmp when I pulled the vfad stuff with the vacuum lines. I capped the vacuum nipple and was fine until stopping at a light after getting up to 60mph. RPMs fluctuated big time, acted like it was going to kill swinging between 1,500 down to 500. Later I got a CEL.

Is the green connector on the back of the air box just for controlling the vfad flap or is it possibly a second intake air temperature sensor?

I reinstalled the vacuum line and vfad controller and the car runs fine.

dmp 11-22-2005 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by 4 years to Supercharge

I reinstalled the vacuum line and vfad controller and the car runs fine.

I tried that too...no difference in my car's behavior. :(

Nemesis8 11-22-2005 11:13 AM

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How about the mesh screen? Is it seated properly? Still sounds like a vacuum leak to me.

BoosTED 11-22-2005 11:14 AM

After you reinstall, do a ECU reset with the battery disconnect, reconnect. Drive easy (under 4k RPMs for first 20 miles).

dmp 11-22-2005 11:18 AM

Screen tis seating - Jim at RB is confident the problem is 'after' the MAF - frankly, a leak before the MAF wouldn't change anything, as the MAF can't know where it's getting it's air from. A leak after the MAF would mean the MAF is setting the fuel for a specific air load, yet the car is actually getting another.

The car is very driveable, however, it's just a little annoying at stop lights. Most of the time, I keep my foot on the gas pedal just a hair, to keep the idle tween 900-1000 rpms and things are fine.

Someday - maybe friday - I'll inspect the rubber accordian piece to look for small breaks/cracks.

Mazda-Rati 11-22-2005 11:30 AM

dmp, maybe you just got a bad batch of gas or something. also, make sure one of the spark plug wires didn't get accidently tugged a bit out of place during the install.

dmp 11-22-2005 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mazda-Rati
dmp, maybe you just got a bad batch of gas or something. also, make sure one of the spark plug wires didn't get accidently tugged a bit out of place during the install.


Done and done...it's been doing this since the install, and thru +/- a tank of fuel. :(

davefzr 11-22-2005 12:48 PM

I watched the video and my car does that sometimes too and I have everything as far as the air filter stock right now... It doesnt happen every day.. but it does occasionally.

wcs 01-25-2006 06:57 AM

I would just like to say that this thread has been a great read.
I have just recently installed the RB Revi Intake and Ram Air Duct (did the RB A/C and Oil Cooler Screens too) and have had no problems (knock on wood).
The car sounds great and my ass dyno says whoopeee!!!!
However I was unsatisfied with the connection between the Ram Air Duct and the Intake box and will be taking things apart this weekend to try and fix as per another thread I found from reading this one. Thanks again!
I live in central Ontario where the temperatures can drop to -30C in February, now I don't generally drive my 8 in the winter but I can't wait to get that kind of cold air crammed into my intake!!! :D

Cheers

staticlag 01-25-2006 06:04 PM

Post back after you try it.

wcs 02-01-2006 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by staticlag
Post back after you try it.

Well I got it done.
What a bitch of a job! I started by completely disassembling the Ram Air Intake and Revi to try and get the best alignment possible. I suppose you normally wouldn't have to do this as per your directions but I figured .... in for a dime in for a dollar.

Summary:
1) Achieved a better connection between the RamAir CAI and the Revi. The connection still had a gap but was much better then my first installation. I also applied some Blue Silicon to the foam gasket to help it stay in place. This seemed to work nicely. I also used a small 4 inch piece of softwood to hold the bumper out a bit while I made adjustments to the Ram Air CAI.
2) Appling the Silicon as per your directions ---> I failed terribly. I tried 4 times to get those cotton bandages to stick correctly and all I did was make a terrible mess! SIDENOTE: The silicon is relatively easy to clean up if you don't wait too long. It's handy to have some Brake Cleaner or 70% Alcohol around for this too. So what I did was apply some silicon directly to the area I wanted the cotton bandage by hand. Then I applied the cotton strips. This seemed to work better for me.
3) After waiting and applying the second coat I was pleased with the seal however it doesn't look that pretty. Good thing no one can see it!

Conclusion:
1) I'm happy with the seal not so happy with the look of it but like I said who is going to see it.
2) I'm sure next time I'll be able to do it in half the time and 2x better.
3) I do notice a small sound difference. Slightly reduced noise level and a deeper tone.
4) I'm disappointed that I had to do this in the first place. When I purchased the Ram Air CAI and the Revi (I did this at the same time) I was totally under the impression that they would be connected some how. As per this picture on their web page http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm NOTE:See pic below.
5) Would I do this again? Yes until I find a solution that is better. IE like a proper hose fitting. I thought I had found something at a local store however it was a 60 dollar item that needed to be ordered in and if it didn't fit to bad for me I owned it. So for a 300 ml 18 dollar tube of Blue Silicon and 5 dollars of medical supplies and a 30 cent popsicle this method is a nice alternative. Besides worse case scenerio (wcs hehehe) I can take it all a part again and with a little elbow grease and a few beers clean out all the silicon and I'm back to scratch again. No harm no foul.
6) My only worry? If I need to take the car into the dealer and they need to remove the Revi. Boy are they in for a surprise!

All in all .... I'm happy. Thanks everyone and Cheers Staticlag :ylsuper:


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