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Old 03-24-2006, 01:48 AM
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I have a rmagic supercat
cat is dead


do you know where I can buy the bonez cat (only the cat no the full supercat system)

I look on the web and find nothing about bonez compagny
Old 03-24-2006, 02:45 AM
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I believe that's their own brand name spin-off
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
I went with the RP because it's a Bonez- they make them for the RX7 so I know it will handle the rotary's heat. I also have yet to hear of one failing, while I've heard of at least two of the SR cat's failing as well as the one that CZ sells.
For what it's worth I melted my RP cat--but I have a turbo. And I also could use that hanger.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:54 AM
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Cat this cat that, lol...I'm a bit lost.

This thing looks like a mid-pipe and NOT a high flow cat...is that right? I'm sorry, but I hear catback (which means exhaust muffler)...cat, midpipe...etc and I'm lost in the terminology.

I'd rather go with a high flow catalytic converter (cat?) than a midpipe (no-cat) personally to keep things free from CEL's and the GOBment's scrutiny.
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don't kid yourself, you can burn up any cat converter ...
Old 03-24-2006, 11:18 AM
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Didn't Adrian loose his RP cat on the turbo also?

Mine is holding up nicely - and I have the very first one they sold to the public.
Old 03-24-2006, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
don't kid yourself, you can burn up any cat converter ...
Sure. G8rboy said he never heard of one burning so I thought I'd let him know at least one did. I never said it was RP's fault.

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I have the very first one they sold to the public.
Oh yeah? Well the one I toasted was a preproduction prototype that also had a resonator. So neener neener.
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Didn't Adrian loose his RP cat on the turbo also?
Yes.
Old 03-24-2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
Cat this cat that, lol...I'm a bit lost.

This thing looks like a mid-pipe and NOT a high flow cat...is that right? I'm sorry, but I hear catback (which means exhaust muffler)...cat, midpipe...etc and I'm lost in the terminology.

I'd rather go with a high flow catalytic converter (cat?) than a midpipe (no-cat) personally to keep things free from CEL's and the GOBment's scrutiny.
This is a high flow cat.. not a race pipe. You're right though... the cat unit is so small compared to the 3" piping it looks like a resonated race pipe, but I can assure you there are catalyst elements in it.
Old 03-24-2006, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PUR NRG
Oh yeah? Well the one I toasted was a preproduction prototype that also had a resonator. So neener neener.
LOL - maybe they changed something after your experience?
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
LOL - maybe they changed something after your experience?
Hard to say. They actually made the prototype for in-house testing, then dropped it deciding the resonator didn't make much of a difference. Last year when I called I asked if they could make a cat w/resonator and they sold me their prototype. With the resonator it definitely needed a hanger. It would constantly rub against the rear cross brace.
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Old 03-24-2006, 12:59 PM
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I didn't mean anything except that you can burn up any cat converter, I wasn't referring to anyone's particular experience with a given brand, it's just a general statement.
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This is a high flow cat.. not a race pipe. You're right though... the cat unit is so small compared to the 3" piping it looks like a resonated race pipe, but I can assure you there are catalyst elements in it.
Thanks for the answer, do you know if this will toss a CEL? I know it's not always the same on each 8 but should we expect it to toss it on, gain some HP and sound, and move on or will this force you into driving with a CEL on all the time.

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dude, it's a cat converter, it's not going to throw a CEL unless it goes bad
Old 03-25-2006, 12:09 AM
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update... I installed the new Supercat (as well as new spark plugs and oil change) this evening and took a short spin before my Gators whooped up on the Hoyas.

First impressions... it's loud... but I love it. With the Greddy SP2, it sounds like a friggin' race car at WOT. Even partial throttle it's way more aggressive. As for performance, it seems to rev up from 6k-9k much faster. While the streets were still wet from some light snow earlier, tonight was the first time I got the rear end to fishtail in 3rd that dramatically (and I was only at 5k rpm or so when I gunned it). I had to get my *** back home to watch my game, so I'll be taking it for some serious runs tomorrow and I'll try to get a vid or sound clip.

Installation notes:

The O2 sensor is a standard 22mm, so I was able to buy a specialized O2 sensor socket (looks like a normal socket, but has a slot for the wires to slide through) that worked like a charm. After reading that some people f'd up their $300 sensor, this is a smart $8 investment.

As for the hanger... I don't see this thing ever being jarred hard enough to bang the undercarriage or any of the braces. After I bolted it up, I tried to push it around to see how much play was in it, and it barely moved a 1/2" either way. It's still early, but so far I don't see a need for the additional brace.

Other stuff: The braces have 12mm bolts, the bolts/nuts on the header and exhaust side of the cat are 14mm. The O2 sensor is 22mm, and the tiny nuts on the O2 sensor bracket are 10mm. I used silicone spray on the nuts and bolts about an hour before the install, and also on the rubber hanger, and had zero problems removing anything. This was a very easy install... it actually took me longer to change my plugs than change out the cat (damn front rotor trailing plug is a PITA!).

PM me if anyone has questions about the install...

...and GO GATORS!!!!
Old 03-25-2006, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
, tonight was the first time I got the rear end to fishtail in 3rd that dramatically (and I was only at 5k rpm or so when I gunned it).

You were turning your wheel right?
Old 03-25-2006, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
You were turning your wheel right?
No... I do that all the time : ). This was a straight line acceleration... the roads were wet, and my snow tires are a few years old, but that had never happened in 3rd before. Happens in 2nd often, but never 3rd.
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That does sound pretty impressive. Do you think this new version flows better then the older rp?
Old 03-25-2006, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
That does sound pretty impressive. Do you think this new version flows better then the older rp?
It might... someone in another thread claimed that. The cat unit is quite a bit smaller so I'm guessing there might be less flow restriction.
Old 03-25-2006, 08:40 AM
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Im not sure why the flow is that important. Its a 3 inch straight pipe with a cat welded in. If there is any difference in flow from the old unit then it might add 1 HP which you would never feel. Bonez parts are generic cats with a Bonez stamp on them.
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Is this new cat finally CARB certified?
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Were sound clips ever posted? I dont recall seeing a thread with the new style bonez supercat posted anywhere...
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
Installation notes:

The O2 sensor is a standard 22mm, so I was able to buy a specialized O2 sensor socket (looks like a normal socket, but has a slot for the wires to slide through) that worked like a charm. After reading that some people f'd up their $300 sensor, this is a smart $8 investment.
An O2 sensor socket would be a good investement but I didn't need it when I did mine. My O2 sensor came off easily with an open end wrench.
Add me to the club that has no problem with the hanger not being there. The pipe is so much lighter than the stock unit and the diameter in most places is a lot smaller.
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Just ordered mine... About to order the Turbo XS to go with it in preperation for the upcoming tuning session with Scott in the So Cali. meetup.

Nice!
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Hey there guys, RP is nice enough to also send out an email indicating when this will arrive and the date is 5/02. I cant wait! As soon as it comes i'll take some pictures of it and should have it installed within the next week.

After that i'll take some videos of it ideling moving the camera around the car at various points and also get some footage of the car in action while driving.

I also ordered the Turbo XS exhaust, but that should also arrive sometime early this coming week as well.

Still have a few more things to purchase (Revi/Air Duct). I want my car to try and closely match the test car that was tuned by Scott so that I can have at least the same or better results than that car did.

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