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VividPepsiRX8 08-04-2005 11:49 AM

NEW K&N Intake Press Release
 
K&N asked that I post this on here for them. We first launched the original K&N intake for the RX8 2 years ago. Last November I leaked some pictures on this site of a redesign. Well it is now available from any of your local K&N dealers or RX8Club sponsors that sell K&N.

Here is the verbage on it -
K&N, the leader in intake performance, has just redesigned their Mazda RX8 intake kit. This revolutionary designed increases the rx8 by 10 horsepower at the wheels (Dyno Sheet to be posted soon). The carbon fiber intake with reverse funnel design sucks in more volume of air then conventional cone filters. It utilizes an aluminum intake tube which has a MAF mount for perfect readings that do not affect the cars operation. The heatshield is redesigned in aluminum to fit flawlessly around the intake to keep the engine heat from penetrating the intakes direct airflow. Powdercoated in a stylish black with the K&N logo. The kit includes silicon hose connections and new clamps for a secure fit. All K&N intakes include detailed installation instructions.

Here is a link to detailed INSTALLTION INSTRUCTIONS

More pics and dyno sheets from tests to be FOUND HERE

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/images/k&nrx8new.jpg

Jedi54 08-04-2005 12:04 PM

After all the wonderful stories I read about the Typhoon :rolleyes: , I think I'll go with the Revi :D

No offense K & N, I've used your products in other cars for YEARS but I am just not feeling this one...

brightnova 08-04-2005 12:06 PM

What about sound level? Do you lose the stock cover over the intake and end up with a hole?

SHOWOFF 08-04-2005 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54
After all the wonderful stories I read about the Typhoon :rolleyes: , I think I'll go with the Revi :D

No offense K & N, I've used your products in other cars for YEARS but I am just not feeling this one...


Almost $500 for 5 to 6 HP. :rolleyes: And to top it all of that Ghetto ass looking ram air funnel thing doesn't even fit behind some aftermarket bumpers.

nycgps 08-04-2005 12:34 PM

Kinda late, I ordered the new Typhoon already.

Im using the *older* version and will install this *new one* to my 2005 Shinka.

I will post my *feelings* about it as soon as I get it on my hands.

Jedi54 08-04-2005 12:36 PM

nycgps:

What did you pay for the "new" typhoon?

nycgps 08-04-2005 01:12 PM

well, I paid 300 bux included shipping.

Its kinda pricey, but I've been using K&N for years so dont really feel like to change to other brand. Not saying Racing beat is bad, I know K&N's design came from REVi, but ahh.

I still like Racing Beat's stuff

DARKMAZ8 08-04-2005 01:31 PM

Actually this design doesn't look half bad. Is the filter removable and can be recharged?

VividPepsiRX8 08-04-2005 05:03 PM

Yes removable and can be recharged.

crossbow 08-05-2005 08:48 AM

Why don't manufacturers use plastic intake pipes? Wouldn't that be far more effective in terms of not absorbing heat instead of the stupid generic alumnium...which just begs to absorb all the engine bay heat. This isn't against K&N specifically...just curious as to why they aren't attempting such a feat in this application.

On my fathers truck, the entire K&N intake system is made of plastic, which works fantastically since it basically insulates the entire air charge from the engine bay heat.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/im..._n/63-1095.jpg

Slideways 08-05-2005 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by crossbow
Why don't manufacturers use plastic intake pipes? Wouldn't that be far more effective in terms of not absorbing heat instead of the stupid generic alumnium...which just begs to absorb all the engine bay heat. This isn't against K&N specifically...just curious as to why they aren't attempting such a feat in this application.

On my fathers truck, the entire K&N intake system is made of plastic, which works fantastically since it basically insulates the entire air charge from the engine bay heat.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/im..._n/63-1095.jpg

Because there isnt the "bling" factor involved with plastic. The metal definately heats up and will heat soak the air for a short time until you can get a lot of air flowing through. I was taking temps on my AEM setup in my Spyder when autocrossing. Sitting in grid I could watch the intake temps climb after a run even with the engine cover open. It would cool back down after my next run but then climb right back up. I ended up insulating the entire tube with thick, reflective foam wrap. Dropped the temps by several degrees. Still wasnt as cool as the factory plastic intake, but the factory intake is very restrictive.

For daily driving the temps were the same insulated or not. Once moving, the airflow through the tube is fast enough to not heatsoak. It only really comes into play if you are sitting at idle or slow moving traffic for long periods of time.

merlot 08-05-2005 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by crossbow
Why don't manufacturers use plastic intake pipes? Wouldn't that be far more effective in terms of not absorbing heat instead of the stupid generic alumnium...which just begs to absorb all the engine bay heat. This isn't against K&N specifically...just curious as to why they aren't attempting such a feat in this application.

Doesn't alumnium help deflect the heat? Think about using alumnium foil when cooking or reheating. We use it to cover food because it keeps the heat in. If we cook on it, it never get as hot as the metal rack it lying on. Furthermore, alumnium is used as the heat shield.

VividPepsiRX8 08-05-2005 11:05 AM

actually it has nothign to do with "Bling" K&N has several different types of intake kits. The 63series is the molded plastic. This intake is twice as expensive to produce then the standard aluminum pipe. Yes the molded plastic is better, but the aluminum in terms of what it is retaining and the negatives for your car is BARELY noticeable. If there was a cheap way to rotomold this stuff and produce it, then all intakes would be made out of it. But you have to admit this redesign is much nicer then the original.

brightnova 08-05-2005 12:43 PM

Will K&N apply for CARB certification for this intake?

QBallz 08-05-2005 06:57 PM

Step 41 says place CARB sticker somewhere that can be seen.

brightnova 08-05-2005 07:11 PM

WOW - I thought these things took time to certify. This makes a decision between the K+N and REVi a little simpler. Now I just hope K+N is living up to its promised HP claim. Because if they do, I'm getting this!!!

BIU 08-06-2005 03:06 AM

how is the noise level on this thing?

someone has a video clip somewhere?

nycgps 08-06-2005 08:31 AM

I ordered the RB's Ram Air Duct and the new K&N intake at the same time.

they shipped the thing already and it should be here by .... next wednesday and thursday.

I will install both as soon as I get them.

Then Im gonna post something on here.

DARKMAZ8 08-06-2005 10:20 AM

would there be any benefit from using the rb ram unit in conjunction with this unit? Is this intake more/less efficient than the revi? I want a good reason for me to go this route instead of the traditional rb route.

Thanks

Tamas 08-06-2005 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by SHOWOFF
...that Ghetto ass looking ram air funnel...

If you say that, I think you have not seen it in real life. Nothing farther from "ghetto look". Actually, it is a very well made piece which fits in an extremely precise way. Just like as if it'd came from the factory. You can't even see it if it's installed - it's so well hidden.

Tamas 08-06-2005 10:42 AM

One advantage of this K&N creation over the REVi is the much easier access to the filter for cleaning. Apart from that though, I still like the REVi + cold air duct combo much better. It is plastic (apart from a short tube after the intake box) so it shields better from heat and it looks like stock.
Hopefully I'll have better chance to get through the California smog checks with the REVi due to it's stealth look. Perhaps I'll cover the Racing Beat logo with a black sticker for the inspection :D

DARKMAZ8 08-06-2005 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Tamas
One advantage of this K&N creation over the REVi is the much easier access to the filter for cleaning. Apart from that though, I still like the REVi + cold air duct combo much better. It is plastic (apart from a short tube after the intake box) so it shields better from heat and it looks like stock.
Hopefully I'll have better chance to get through the California smog checks with the REVi due to it's stealth look. Perhaps I'll cover the Racing Beat logo with a black sticker for the inspection :D

no offence tamas but I take your opinion as a biased one. You already have the revi so you are partial to it. I just don't think that the revi flows more air than this intake because of the limited source to air. Like if I put my head in a box just with an opening vs. my head out of the box. Plus this K&N unit looks to have a heat shield.

Tamas 08-06-2005 11:02 AM

No offense taken - I think you're right. Of course I'm biased :D

frankcastle123 08-06-2005 02:48 PM

is k&n going to offer just the filter for those who spent $300 on their 1st intake? or are they expecting you to spend another $300 dollars on the new one and use the old one to remind you of how they scamed you out of $300 dollars with their first air intake. i think thats the least K&n can do to keep their first rx8 costumers happy after their first short air intake kit!!!!!

DARKMAZ8 08-06-2005 03:01 PM

^^^^^Good luck getting them to do that. I didn't buy their first intake so I'm ok spending the 300 for this one. I think the way the rb revi is selling is punishment enough.


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