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halimsteven 02-08-2009 09:05 PM

Mazmart Waterpump???
 
does any body have any experience with the pump? is it really worth it?
is the car staying cool on certain temp? can anybody explain or pay attention when it's on the car, for example: it keeps the car certain temp, colder much faster, or etc.
thank you for the advice
steven

Rotr8 02-08-2009 09:08 PM

yes and yes and yes,,,, just have to look at the dinky ass oe water pump blade and wonder WTF? does this even work when you have the REmedy right next to it

halimsteven 02-08-2009 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Rotr8 (Post 2857938)
yes and yes and yes,,,, just have to look at the dinky ass oe water pump blade and wonder WTF? does this even work when you have the REmedy right next to it

interesting, i have to look into it, is the blade bigger and wider?
steven

alz0rz 02-08-2009 09:50 PM

i have heard nothing but good things about the mazmart waterpump and I am planning it as an N/A upgrade this summer.

the impeller is shortened in a sense. look at them side by side.

it is designed to prevent cavitation above ~7,000rpms where the pump is no longer *effectively* pumping the coolant.. instead it is just churning it.. think of sticking a fan abruptly into a glass of water. since the pump is belt operated and with the high revving of the motor the water pump will ultimately spin so quick that the coolant is just going to churn.. that is why any sort of prolonged operation at high rpms brings temps up quick.

Rotr8 02-08-2009 10:17 PM

http://g.imagehost.org/0277/PICT0341.jpg

alz0rz 02-08-2009 10:43 PM

/\ boom shaka laka

swoope 02-08-2009 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by Rotr8 (Post 2858047)


left photo. efficient pump.

right photo. blender!

;)

you decide.

beers :beer:

alz0rz 02-08-2009 11:16 PM

ah yes.. "blender". perfect way to describe it.

Easy_E1 02-09-2009 12:05 AM

I use the Mazmart pump. I am thankful to Mazmart for making this pump. It doesn't keep the car cooler but it will cool it down quicker if it gets hot.
This is my experience with it. A definite improvement in cooling capability. And I think I have the hottest running RX8 in the country.

swoope 02-09-2009 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 2858228)
I use the Mazmart pump. I am thankful to Mazmart for making this pump. It doesn't keep the car cooler but it will cool it down quicker if it gets hot.
This is my experience with it. A definite improvement in cooling capability. And I think I have the hottest running RX8 in the country.

your car it HOT! :)

but what you say is the truth!!!! now if we could just fix that pesky thermostat issue...


beers :beer:

paulmasoner 02-09-2009 12:18 AM

i like how mazda followed suit in the design of the newer water pumps :)

that alone should say something about the quality of the REmedy pump, it was good enough that the new OE pump looks just like it!

Easy_E1 02-09-2009 10:10 AM

I showed Mazmart's waterpump to the Mazda Engineers that came to check my car for overheating.
Maybe that's where they got the idea from.

Red Devil 02-09-2009 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 2858584)
I showed Mazmart's waterpump to the Mazda Engineers that came to check my car for overheating.
Maybe that's where they got the idea from.

Maybe, but the guy that did a lot of work designing the pump is a man that Mazda is VERY familiar with when it comes to rotary advancement and technology. A real icon of this car community.

Jedi54 02-09-2009 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by halimsteven (Post 2857932)
does any body have any experience with the pump?

Yes

Originally Posted by halimsteven (Post 2857932)
is it really worth it?

Yes

Originally Posted by halimsteven (Post 2857932)
is the car staying cool on certain temp? can anybody explain or pay attention when it's on the car, for example: it keeps the car certain temp, colder much faster, or etc.

YES The car cools down Much quicker with this pump. I've had it on since last summer and I can't say enough about this thing.

Nemesis8 02-09-2009 06:25 PM

Now if you could apply twisted vane blade technology to Paul's impeller, then it would be even more efficient.

halimsteven 02-09-2009 10:05 PM

thank you guys for the advice, and it will be my next mod
steven

Mazmart 02-10-2009 08:17 AM

Thermostat
 

Originally Posted by swoope (Post 2858248)
your car it HOT! :)

but what you say is the truth!!!! now if we could just fix that pesky thermostat issue...


beers :beer:

It's been such a pleasure to provide this item. For years, Mr Engman's talents have not been able to be tapped to supply products for the 'people'. Finding something that we could develop that would truly be helpful was my task. I saw Rick's dis-content at discovering the stock pump characteristics and I saw him modifying them for some important people who race. After substituting impellers from other pumps was getting tough, I asked "Can't we make our own?". The rest is history including chatting with the excellent consultant that I use regularly on such matters regarding materials and sourcing the best factory for the machining process.

Now, we've been talking for years about how helpful the right thermostat would be (Delaying the onset of temperature escalation amongst other things). We may be MUCH closer now. I feel like a stuck record saying that but I truly think we may be able to have product available in time for this summer.

Paul.

mushkid 02-09-2010 03:46 PM

does this void the rotary core warranty?

Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 2860153)
It's been such a pleasure to provide this item. For years, Mr Engman's talents have not been able to be tapped to supply products for the 'people'. Finding something that we could develop that would truly be helpful was my task. I saw Rick's dis-content at discovering the stock pump characteristics and I saw him modifying them for some important people who race. After substituting impellers from other pumps was getting tough, I asked "Can't we make our own?". The rest is history including chatting with the excellent consultant that I use regularly on such matters regarding materials and sourcing the best factory for the machining process.

Now, we've been talking for years about how helpful the right thermostat would be (Delaying the onset of temperature escalation amongst other things). We may be MUCH closer now. I feel like a stuck record saying that but I truly think we may be able to have product available in time for this summer.

Paul.


Jedi54 02-09-2010 03:49 PM

the pump begins it's life as a Mazda part so from the outside they will NEVER know. The only way they'll notice it's different is if they take the water pump off. (which they would never do under routine maintenance / inspections)

if your engine ever goes out, just swap the OEM unit back in.

9krpmrx8 02-09-2010 04:03 PM

From my understanding the rebuilds received and updated pump. Does anyone have a picture of that or know how it compares?

Jedi54 02-09-2010 04:08 PM

no but if you give me a few weeks I can probably get you that pic. A buddy of mine is most likely having a Reman engine ordered for him this week.
Once he gets it back, I can take a peak at the pump

alz0rz 02-09-2010 04:19 PM

bump a year to the date.. almost =x

9krpmrx8 02-09-2010 04:20 PM

Thanks, I want the Mazmart pump even though I have newly rebuilt engine but right when I was about to order I saw another post listing the new stuff in a rebuild (plastic propeller supposedly) and if it is a better pump I'm not sure i will need the Mazmart.

Jedi54 02-09-2010 04:32 PM

then just take yours off and look.
problem solved.
;)

9krpmrx8 02-09-2010 04:37 PM

yeah, I could. Is the gasket resealable?


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