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Old 10-30-2003, 10:08 PM
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Question Mazdaspeed ECU?

I was checking out the new blue color RX-8 from Mazdaspeed as mentioned in this thread

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=13367

If you follow the link to the Mazdaspeed site, one of the performance features listed is an "Exclusive control unit (PCM)". This sounds like Mazdaspeed has a special ECU designed for performance.

Anyone else find this interesting?

BTW, that dark blue is killer!
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The babel fish translation is as follows...

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Sounds like Mazdaspeed did a CAI, reprogrammed the ECU, put a higher flow exhaust on and possibly replaced the cat with a high flow version. Hard to tell for sure tho.
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Quoth the fish (thanks Kev):

it became possible to select the air/fuel expense which is optimum to put out power
So they have optimized the A/F ratios for power, just like Canzoomer's device is doing. They apparently have tuned it with a high flow cat and catback. That's what a lot of folks in the Tech Garage thread are looking for, a complete package designed to work together. Has anyone seen what the power claims are for this setup?

What does the change of plugs from 7E to 8E mean? Is that a cooler or hotter plug? Does that mean that the combustion chamber temps are higher, possibly due to a leaner burn? This is all speculation, if anyone has an informed opinion, please post it.

I wonder if it is a physically different ECU or just the air/fuel maps. If it is just the maps, then everyone should be shouting "I want the JDM Mazdaspeed ECU maps" rather than the JDM maps. I guess even our Far East friends with the JDM map will want the Mazdaspeed maps.

This looks very interesting. If anyone has any more info on this, I'd love to hear about it.
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Originally posted by Blue87Sport
Quoth the fish (thanks Kev):



So they have optimized the A/F ratios for power, just like Canzoomer's device is doing. They apparently have tuned it with a high flow cat and catback. That's what a lot of folks in the Tech Garage thread are looking for, a complete package designed to work together. Has anyone seen what the power claims are for this setup?

What does the change of plugs from 7E to 8E mean? Is that a cooler or hotter plug? Does that mean that the combustion chamber temps are higher, possibly due to a leaner burn? This is all speculation, if anyone has an informed opinion, please post it.

I wonder if it is a physically different ECU or just the air/fuel maps. If it is just the maps, then everyone should be shouting "I want the JDM Mazdaspeed ECU maps" rather than the JDM maps. I guess even our Far East friends with the JDM map will want the Mazdaspeed maps.

This looks very interesting. If anyone has any more info on this, I'd love to hear about it.
Jap plugs, higher number means cooler

Domestic plugs, higher number means hotter.

**all typically.
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Don't forget the lightweight flywheel!

That should be one of my next mods after suspension.
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Good info Syntrix, thanks.

OK, so they're running cooler plugs. Please educate me. Does that they're worried about predetonation or just that they expect the engine to be running at high rpms and thus high combustion chamber temps? Doesn't leaning the A/F ratio result in higher temps also? So, is the cooler plug a sign that they are leaning the fuel mix out for more power?
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I just realized this title.

No mazdaspeed power upgrades for the USDM model (ie, NO Mazdaspeed ECU). All according to Mazdaspeed booth reps at SEMA Yesterday.

He did say that all parts would be avail to make the current RX8 look like the MS version.

The rep could not comment on the JDM version specifics.
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Guys,

They aren't going to do anything to change the ECU in the states. EPA demands the car run rich on WOT to preserve the cat and that is the way it is going to be.

They will do exhaust, intake (maybe), and mechanical (flywheel, suspension, etc.) but they are not going to touch the fuel maps.

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EPA is more along the lines of 7/70k Emissions warranty.

Now if all our cats started to fail at 60k, Mazda would fire a few enineers, as they would have to recall everyone's cat.
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That's OK, there are other avenues for power mods. As for the aero stuff...any idea how much cheaper it will be to get from Mazdaspeed USA as compared to buying it now from the folks currently shipping it from Japan? I would guess it would be significantly cheaper...at least it should be!

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Originally posted by syntrix
I just realized this title.

No mazdaspeed power upgrades for the USDM model (ie, NO Mazdaspeed ECU). All according to Mazdaspeed booth reps at SEMA Yesterday.

He did say that all parts would be avail to make the current RX8 look like the MS version.

The rep could not comment on the JDM version specifics.
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