You would have to cut that off, grind it down, machine a new support and have it welded in the exact location on the other side then finish of the bar to make it look stock... That is a allot of work...

but its posibel the work its neceseri to kep the car perfect!!

thanks takahashi!!! now i see it more posibol.

Thank you SO much Taka. That was one of the most helpful and useful things anyone has done for me. You are the best. I will take those photos to the shop I have my work done at and see if they think it will be a good product in the end to do that work. Thank you again.

...... :D :I'm brushed:

Wow Need For Speed, your english is getting much better! Glad to see you're still participating here. :D

Ok folks, stupid question time. I suppose I could just go look but I'm being lazy today. ;) Anyway, what is the point of the master cylinder brace? I mean yeah, it's cool, but is there any reason it needs to be there? Far as I can recall, the stock strut tower brace has no master cylinder support, and the car works fine without it. Why add one? Why not just cut it off of the JDM 4 point brace and be done with it?

^^I was wondering about the same thing^^

taka I'd like to ask you a few questions can I pm you sometime, please?

Omicron:
The reason I was asking about it is because the MazdaSpeed literature mentioned the brake brace. After some research (I can't remember where) I found out it is used because the stock firewall is very thin. This causes the entire brake system to flex when a lot of pressure is applied to the braking system. Even with new brake lines and new fluid the brake pedal feel can be loose at the limits. This bracing system used in both the Japanese 4 point and US spec 2 point strut tower brace supports the braking assembly and promotes better brake pedal feel and response when pushed hard. I'm not sure it's necessary, but when you look at my other car ('86 Grand Prix) you'll know that I'm all about pushing things beyond what is "necessary." And if MazdaSpeed felt it was necessary in both US and J-spec cars, I want it used.

how hard is it to reach the dip stick now ?

or is it affected at all ?

No... maybe have to twist the arm a touch to get it out..

Not hard at all. Good thinking though thew. I did think of that until I try it out last night.

To answer the question:

Omicorn: From the fitting, I don't think there is too much pressure on the brake brace. I fit quite easy with a thumb pressure it goes in. It is assisting but I doubt is the KEY function. Can be omitted I think.

RotorManiac: Don't have to ask mate, P/M me! :D

i instal the 4 point front bar from mazda speed and i cut the stop master cilinder, tumoro i have to instal the stoper but there is just 1 person in andorra ho works good with aluminium.
i whel send pics wen instal!!

Its Posibol To Fix The Stoper On The Rigth Side I Di It I Whel Send Pics..

Found this, looks promising!
 

http://www.cpracing.ca

Now thats a thing of beauty to all those who want a 4 point, and for only $200, we can't go wrong.

Doesn't have the brake bracing though...

Where is it? There are many 4 point strut in the market. Autoexe, Odula, revolution just to name a few...

Quite frankly, this thread is about MazdaSpeed 4 point bar.

Hey I thought the forums were for sharing, it's a 4 point bar so that makes this a valid post and folks may not have seen this one. It's in Canada and at just $200 including shipping it's a potential alternative to those folks that may be reading this but don't want to shell out for the Mazdaspeed, or don't want to be cutting the master cylinder bracing off.

Sorry if you feel I crashed your thread, good to know the spirit of sharing is alive and well, jeez.

it is not MY thread and I don't get me wrong.

Could you post the pic of the strut you are talking about? I cannot see it in the website you posted.

oh found it http://www.cpracing.ca/

Hey I found the pic of the rear understrut :eek: ... where does it link too??

Rear strut
 

No worries, I overreacted a bit.. long day.

Not sure about that rear tie, I had the same question. But it sure looks interesting.

On your comment about plenty of options. Here in the US there are not that many chassis braces yet, or at least not that I have heard discussed on the forums or seen on the net. I was excited to find this site, especially given the prices.

I am going to have to get under the car and figure out if it's worth the $100. I much prefer that to taking up trunk space with a rear strut tower bar.

What are your thoughts..

You can order most via the net...

For Autoexe, www.japanparts.com

A friend pointed out that they may be using the hangers behind the muffler's drum. I have not seen an aftermarket exhaust does not use this... certainly mine does!

So if you have stock or afterexhaust like mine - it is not going to be able to put it in...

Taka

japan parts to expensiv they are not shep. look for oder import dealers!! its beter

I think I get your point but could you suggest anywhere in US that have cheap shipment to Australia - anything I order can double the price due to the shipment cost... stupid USPS and UPS isn't it?

Cost $22 for shipping an oil cap... you figure that out.

Even shipping the strut and sways from Japan via EMS only cost AUD$300

You will not see my trustration ... It is frankly too far from US. So do you when you order from Japanparts... the EMS cost will kill you!

i m not from, im from wurope i orther to japan parts to compare the prices and i find they are veri expensiv i orther mi parts to a dealer in japan more sheper an beter service!!

paerdon ... im not fron USA im fron Europe......Andorra

You live in the Pyrenneees (or at least somewhat closer than from Australia) !!! Very nice... ;)

Could you tell me where you order from. I know of takakaira, jt-imports but have not tried them yet.

Taka